Penguins/NHL
Penguins force a Game 7
The series shifts back to Pittsburgh.
Everything just about went right for the Penguins in a 5-2 Game 6 win to tie the best-of-seven series at 3-3.
The stars stepped up with goals from Phil Kessel, Sidney Crosby, Kris Letang, the Penguins played suffocating defense for the first forty minutes in limiting the Lightning to four shots on goal in the first period, 11 shots through two periods, and most importantly in an elimination game, the Penguins had some luck on their side in the first period.
Among them:
*A Jonathan Drouin goal was called offside with his foot up in the air.
*The Penguins were then able to kill off a terrible retaliation penalty from Evgeni Malkin.
*Later in the period Victor Hedman got a delay-of-game penalty with the Penguins already on the power play by shooting the puck over the glass a 150 feet down the ice to give the Penguins a 5-on-3 power play and they capitalized with Phil Kessel batting a fluttering Sidney Crosby pass behind Andrei Vasilevskiy.
Where the Penguins won this game was in the first forty minutes and for the first time since Game 3, they were winning all three zones that started with the small battles.
In the third period, Pittsburgh went into a prevent defense, who knows why, and Tampa Bay not surprisingly stormed back. They got the game to 3-2 but Bryan Rust delivered a breakaway goal with 2:08 left in regulation and Nick Bonino comes back with an empty net goal to close it out.
After the Penguins allowed 11 shots through two periods, Tampa Bay fired 20 shots in period three, out-shooting Pittsburgh 20-8. The goal differential in the period, though, would be even ending with a 5-2 Penguins win. Tampa Bay had a 5 v 5 shot attempts advantage of 31-9 in the third period that shows how tilted the ice was.
What also played out in this one was lineup decisions paying off.
Conor Sheary after being a healthy scratch in Game 5, looked like the player from the Rangers series. He brought needed speed in pushing the Lightning back and picked up an assist on Kris Letang’s second period goal with a key zone entry.
The goaltending decision maybe the most important of all. The Penguins didn’t need Matt Murray to be great but he made some great side-to-side saves late in the second and in the third period where he came up huge despite the two goals against. The one goal against Phil Kessel deflected the puck into his own net and the other Matt Cullen bumped into Murray and got into his sight lines on a Brian Boyle shot.
The Lightning brought a ton of traffic in the third period and Murray was a calming presence, something Mike Sullivan talked about before the game. A .933 save percentage will get the job done.
The Penguins were previously 0-4 in their past four elimination games.
Sidney Crosby had one point in the Penguins past five elimination games. He comes out tonight with a great individual goal late in the second to give the Penguins a 3-0 lead, his third game winning goal of the series, and had a primary assist on Phil Kessel’s opening goal of the game.
The Penguins did a lot of the little things well and Pittsburgh’s best players stepped up when the heat was on.
Pittsburgh played like a team has to when facing elimination and delivered. Now the pressure turns back on them to finish the job at home.
Whats wrong with Josh Harrison?
“• Expect Conor Sheary to again play on the top line instead of Beau Bennett, who replaced him in Game 5. Sheary told me that the rest he received from not playing in Game 5 was highly beneficial for his legs and that he now feels strong.” go figure lol
I’ll go one better… If the Pens win tonight and Murray stand on his head… the decision to rest both Murray and Sheary suddenly looks like a terrific move even though they lost that game. Based on the recent performances of both those players leading up to game 5 it was probably in the cards anyway 😉
they didn’t decide to rest murray. jesus christ! they tried to give their buddy the job back and it backfired.
Do you ever have anything else to talk about or are you that simple? I think we all know the answer to that.
The Mr. Obvious post of the decade from tbj.
Are you saying that the obvious slip in play could not have possibly been from a 21 year old rookie getting tired while experiencing the rigours of his 1st NHL season, specifically the playoffs? If that is what you are saying you again have outdone yourself in proving how fucken dumb you truly are. .879% was the TEAM% in that series till game 6. Murray was pitching .958 and .959s vs Washington… vs TB we see .905 a 0.850 and a .867 in three of his games!!! He was getting tired you insufferable cuntbag! Do you honestly think it was… Read more »
His lowest SV% in a win was .923 until the TB series where he got a W w/ 0.905. He went from consistently posting above .930 to hitting it for the 1st time since game 4 vs the Caps the game after the extra days rest lol. Nope… no reason to think he wasnt tired. While the decision to go with MAF had more to do with the assumed spark it gave the guys at the end of game 4 the rest didnt hurt at all and may in fact been the best thing about giving him the day off.… Read more »
goalies don’t get tired. there has been no strategy ever in the history of hockey where the teams decides to give the starting goalie a rest in game 5 of a tired series. they wanted their buddy to have his job back and he blew it.
Sure… when starters are fucking experienced pros you jackass lol. Goaltenders absolutely get tired. This is the whole point of the back up. This is why teams have tried to adjust and limit games of tenders. Christ Martin Brodeurs entire career contained discussions about how tired he may be due to how often he played. We are talking about a 21 yr old who has played a total of 27 NHL games, playoffs and season… most of them have been high pressure games. Special kind of stupid here
“Goalies don’t get tired”
#yodaknew
I totally believe, and I’m really all in. But this has the ominous game seven feeling from the Montreal series. I just hope Murray (and the rest of the Penguins) doesn’t let them get a 2-0 or 3-0 lead early.
Will you be changing your avatar when the Pens win today?
You know what, good point. Didn’t even think about that haha
We know the Penguins will get their scoring chances tonight, and probably put a few in. If Murray plays half way decent then they will win. I expect a big game from Crosby.
You expect a big game from Crosby? Well, then you’re stupid. I expect him to fall flat on his face as is his way, but hope he surprises me.
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FYI… Kuhnhackl
Bennett injured yet ?
Rumor is he can’t sit down after what you did to his buckeye.
PensInsider @SID4800ThePensInsider 14m14 minutes ago
Gm7 #’s: #Bolts 5-1 all time, including 2-1 on road. #Pens 7-7, including 2-7 @SID4800 home, & 2-3 last 5 overall. Havent won 1 @SID4800 home in 21 yrs
So…Pens are due…right?
How is this for an answer?
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Yeah Bob Grove keeps bringing up their poor record in Game 7s, nothing like the Pens media being as negative as possible going into the biggest game of the year. Personally I find it comical because it has zero relevance on tonight’s game, there literally isn’t a single bit of comparable data between those games and tonight’s game, the opponents are different and the Pens roster is different, it means absolutely nothing.
in 08 the Penguins had never beaten Philly in a playoff series… in 09 they were whatever and 1 all time… I believe we remember the outcomes!
Eh – whatever Jay – it has no bearing. None of the past means anything about tonight. It’s this simple – you want to play for the cup? Win a f’ing home game. That’s all you have to do. Win one home game.
At the risk of looking ahead I have a question prefaced with this. At the start of this post season I would have said easily the Pens are one of the teams to get the job done however the emergence of age old issues surrounding the production level of key guys is still an issue. With Daley being out does anyone think the Pens would stand a legit chance vs SJ? I am not being a downer I just feel the Sharks are really rolling, they are top to bottom strong and are healthy.
I said even before the Daley injury that the Sharks were the team that scared me most out of the remaining 4. With that said I definitely think the Pens are capable of beating them if they win tonight but it will take a total team effort and Murray will have to play like he did in the NY series and part of the Caps series.
I think it’ll be a great series. But I also think all of these teams left in the west playoffs have looked better than they actually are, because the big dogs all went out early. Not to insinuate that they’re not good or it won’t be a series. Because I think the exact opposite of that. I’d consider it kind of a pick ’em.
They win tonight I think the cup is theirs for the taking. I’m feeling confident in this group if they pass tonight’s test.
I think fehr or khunackle gets the winner
There’s a surprise. I’m sure it has nothing to do with them both being big guys.
So who’s the hero going to be tonight? My money is on someone kind of random. I’m going to go Khunackle. I could see Kessel or malkin scoring huge goals as well.
I want more of what I seen last game… Names like Letang, Crosby, Malkin and Kessel, a combo thereof puts this team over the top but yes, Khunhackl would be a nice chip in as well. The team has done well when their unsung depth plays well.
I’m not sure there is going to be a hero in the sense of 1 player making all the difference, I think for the Pens to win tonight it’s going to have to be a total team effort as we’ve seen in so many games this post season. Maintain the defensive structure, limit the chances against(especially high danger chances) and don’t make stupid mistakes that give the opponent life has been the recipe for success to this point and I think it will serve them well if they can duplicate that tonight. If TB has 11 most harmless shots through… Read more »
hey yoda this is what Stan thinks of you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axHoy0hnQy8
watch it from the 1:59min
Does anyone ever actually click Senior Frog’s youtube links? Like, ever?
Only the ball hockey tricks because they are fucking amazing “wink”
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I better not see tampax vs sharks it will be the most bandwagon fan hockey in nhl history
Meanwhile, the stories Habs have been golfing since early April. Fuck you.
As the kids would say ” why so jelly”? It’s not the Sharks’ or the Lightning’s fans faults that Canadian teams can’t make the playoffs.
I drove past Rogers arena yesterday. And then laughed. Because the Canucks have been lounging with the rest of canada for two months.
Probably drove by and wondered, damn why can’t america be as nice as this place
I love that Yoda has already determine that if they Pens fail to advance beyond this round that it’s all because of the 1 game they started Fleury and he played poorly. It isn’t because of the 3 games Murray lost, it won’t be about Murray posting a sub .900sv% (depending on his performance tonight), it will be all because of that 1 game Fleury started. The amount of stupidity that comes out of his mind just never ceases to amaze.
the series was even and the pens went with a known playoff choker who hadn’t played in 6 weeks in the biggest game of the season to that point. the only reason was to get their buddy in. it had nothing to do with how murray was performing. he was performing fine. so, if the pens lose, game 5 was the turning point because that was the game the pens pissed away. and if you don’t think they pissed that game away, you are a yinzer in denial.
You’re a fraud. And an idiot.
so you are saying, going to st.bleury was the right move in game 5 and it totally wasn’t his fault that the pens lost?
Well no – as i have posted at least 1,000 times (you must not read anything, probably because the bulk of it is over your head), I wouldn’t have deviated. I never thought bringing a goalie in cold after two months was a good idea unless you were absolutely forced to – and I was proven right. That doesn’t mean the other losses don’t count. And it doesn’t mean the team didn’t “piss them away.”
Classic yoda, lies, cannot make a single case with out significant fallacies in his POV. You’re a fucken rube dude. The best part is you keep doing it. Person A makes a statement, yoda doesn’t agree and starts to build his strawmen in response yet he thinks its clever. It’s not clever, it’s proof you are a bigger fucken idiot than most give you credit for lol.
I could very easily argue that they “pissed away” game 4. Went down 4-0? I mean – didn’t they piss away Game 1? They didn’t even show up. Or do those games not count now….
Nope Murray bad games don’t count and it doesn’t count when the team as a whole does bad, those things have no impact on how the series ends, it’s all about that 1 game.
If they lose this series, I’ll be blaming the entire team for Game 1. Literally gave the game away. Weren’t prepared. Weren’t ready to play. You can’t do that. You can’t hand a team a free 1-0 series advantage and give home ice away and just flat out expect to win. That game a was a dud top to bottom. They’re all to blame. Not a cold goaltender that should have never been put in to begin with.
the pens dominated game 5. the only gave up 5 shots for the first 30 minutes. they were up 2-0….and then the clown show begins. score tied at 2. pens even come back with seconds to go in the 2nd….and then the clown show began again….so predictable. the pissed it away by inserting 29
HAHAHA, there is literally not a single news outlet making the claim that the Pens “dominated” game 5 by any stretch of the imagination… here are a few of the things being said..
Sportsnet
“Fleury was far from the only reason Pittsburgh fell behind the Tampa Bay Lightning 3-2 in this Eastern Conference Final, but he did acknowledge feeling rusty. He stopped just 21 of 25 shots on net.”
Sports Illustrated “Turning Point Cooper reunited the Triplets line midway through the third period and the trio of Kucherov, Johnson and Ondrej Palat came up big with a pair of game-changing goals. After Kucherov tied the game with just over three minutes remaining in regulation, they combined to finish it in extra time. The Lightning instigated a heavy forecheck that created a Penguins turnover behind the net. The puck came out to Kucherov at the point. He fed a streaking Jason Garrison. His blast from the right faceoff dot deflected off the back of Johnson, who had just outmuscled Dumoulin… Read more »
they gave up 5 shots in the 1st 30 minutes. that is domination. st.bleury giving up the garbage goal that he always does turned the tide of the momentum.
As I ended my original post, your stupidity knows no bounds.
Had Murray not been badly outplayed by Vasilevskey all series(especially Game 1 & Game 4) the series would have never been 2-2 in the first place and they would have never been in a position where they had to consider going to Fleury in Game 5 after not having played in 1.5 months, ergo everything is 100% on Murray for creating the situation that made this possible, if Murray doesn’t get outplayed by Vasilevskey in Games 1 & 4 they never even consider going to Fleury and this series may have been over in 4 or 5 games and we… Read more »
are you mark madden in disguise? you think you know everything, you are a st.bleury lover, and you admit to banging prostitutes.
Sam, why are you and NPL calling each other babe now?
Must be the news .I posted 10 hours ago
It’s Amazing the never ending excuses for the mental midget continue, even on this board.
It wasn’t an excuse. It’s the very reason I wouldn’t have made the change. And I was right. You, on the other hand…yeah. Good call.
I’m not sure how providing a legitimate and factual rebutal to an argument is considered making an excuse? For 2 weeks the Murray supporters used Fleury’s layoff as a defense for why he shouldn’t play and Murray should keep the net but when he does eventually play and struggles as the Murray supports claimed he would, all the sudden the Fleury supporters are making excuses if they mention it. You getting almost as good at back tracking as Yoda.
Mine isn’t even a rebuttal. It was my very reason for not wanting him in. It’s like maloni is looking for an excuse to explain why he was too dumb to realize putting in a cold goalie would yield shaky results. It’s like he just started following the game this year. And who knows – maybe he did.
Finally terasenko scores while the series is already over typical fraud. Watch and see malkin do the same tomorrow
It must kill you watching the American you bitched about all year be the guy carrying this team. Do you ever get tired of being wrong?
Yeah ,a fraud that was a tourist for the 3/4 the season and now plays on 3rd line vs lesser talent while teams are focused on Crosby. And half of his goals came on power play since he can’t even play on 3rd line properly
So which is it. Because your Canadian lover was a fraud and tourist for half a season and you said it was ok. Now it’s a problem? That’s a consistent and well thought out argument.
no I am just sayin it because it was a bother for you sid took 2months off yet it is okay for kessel to take the 3/4 of the season off and yet you are exited over his conn smythe trophy
maybe you should take out smythe and leave just the Conn for Mr. kessel
Well, I never commented on Kessel’s masterful season because…it didn’t exist. I’m talking about how he’s carrying the team in the playoffs – which he is. So I’m not sure I understand your argument. Also, I don’ tknow what “exited over his conn smythe trophy” means – is he leaving the conn smythe trophy?
There’s not a bigger con than 87 – took half a season off, AND is letting the american carry the team. Embarrassing.
Sam, what is your Playstation ID? We should play some hockey babe.
i dont play with noobs are you in divison 1 ?
or you are like rothey that plays with noobs in drop in with his crew Which i manage to beat him with random people 4-3 3 goals and 1 assist in that game as a defense
and once again i wont play with you since you take things bad
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Sam, why are you and NPL calling each other babe now?
So you play as the entire defense?
So youre scared to play me?
I like the Pens chances in game 7, I’m jaded from the past but this team has a different feeling to it. Santiago “Lets be positive fellas”
I’m with you. There’s a lot of hostility on this board. At the end of the day, we got a game 7 at home to go to the finals. There’s 26 other teams that would love to be in our situation. I don’t care who scores, who plays well and doesn’t etc.provided we win. Let’s go!
EXACTLY, I don’t understand how D comes out with this passion of destroying Fleury. Murry is in his rookie year and the team is starting him in the playoffs. There is no injustice here. Where does the hate and anger come from?
Fleury was set up to fail. This is why he had no business starting from the word go.
he wasn’t set up to fail. he was set up to take the starting job over and he blew it and that game could cost the pens a trip to the finals. we will find out tomorrow night. why can’t you just admit st.bluery blew it and quit blaming everyone else.
You idiot, he was brought in after more than a month and a half off to play a critical game after the team shit the bed in game four. The coaches clearly believed the spark that was seemingly provided in game fours third was related to MAFs entry into the game. We watched him struggle the last time he tried to come back.. The way a fuck ton of goalies over the history of this sport have done. He didn’t “blow it” you fucken retard we got exactly what should have been expected by someone who isn’t a dumb fuck… Read more »
don’t act like this is the first time that clown blew it. it had nothing to do with being rusty. he choked like always does. look how many sub .900 % he has in the playoffs over his career. stop making excuses.
It had nothing to do with being rusty! Just ask yoda! He knows! Fucking fraud.
Yet, As has been pointed out on MANY occasions, he made significant changes and was not the issue for the last couple years. I even pointed out where his numbers in those years were better than cup winning goalies, the difference being… how the fucking teams played in front of those goalies asshole
You’re a raging idiot. And a fraud. If you expected anything other than what you got after the first game action in two months, you…well, it’s par for the course. Because you’re a moron.
maybe because st.bleury’s horrible performance is going to cost the pens a trip to the finals. the media and the organization wanted so badly to give their buddy a shot to take the job over and that was more important that winning the game.
Well put.
i have a different feeling too because they have a new goalie
But you said there was no way the Pens would make the playoffs lol
Breaking news guys NPL this one is just for you tell me what you think
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@zero, I completely agree with your post earlier about expansion, I don’t see a scenario where the league doesn’t expand to LV(the owners want that 500M expansion fee) but I actually like the idea and thing it will work out very well. With the revamped rules for the expansion draft the team will have the ability to be competitive quickly if they have a good management team and I can definitely see LV quickly becoming a destination spot for hockey fans. I know this obviously doesn’t apply to everyone but personally I can’t wait for the first extended weekend of… Read more »
The 500 mil is nice to get a cheque for 16mil, but thats another hand out collecting from the revenue sharing, so thats less money each year. Im sure its going to happen but id be weary of going into another shaky market.
Yoda would rather remain a virgin like the last thirty seven years of his life than pay for butt.
it’s pathetic that you have to pay to get laid and freely admit it.
Big words coming from a fraud.
yoda, the type of asshole to offer twice the rate and still get told no lol.
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Here’s another thought on the MAF thing… If he isn’t moved this July we could get rooked on a deal come the deadline or later. We would be forced to protect MAF in an expansion situation so GMs will be negotiating from the power position the later in the year it goes. Food for thought I guess.
Crosby scores the GWG and Stanchion is no where to be found, shocker.
That was a beauty too. I know there was a lot of talk about career defining moments for him because of how quiet he has been… 1 and 1 with a highlight reel and “classic” Crosby goal! It suited him, I for one am elated he served up a lot of crow last night. I just hope that doesn’t mean he goes back into the shell now. That would include Letang and Malkin who also had a strong showing on the sheet last night.
That’s kinda how I’m feeling as well, he scored in back to back games earlier in the series and everyone instantly jumped on him breaking out and then he was invisible the next game, hopefully he shows up strong again in Game 7 and carries it through the SCF.
Jeff struggles with that. He thinks intermittent performance is acceptable. Show up when you feel like it Sid!
you’re so pathetic
I think running to run sid’s nuts the minutes he finally does what he’s supposed to is the epitome of pathetic. No surprise you were waiting there gloveless
double shift at Dunkin Donuts
Maybe he jumped from one of the Pittsburgh yellow bridges
Ok, too much acromony. Lets talk about Ben Lovejoy.
You mean the same Ben Lovejoy who has been 1 of the team’s best defenseman throughout these playoffs? Or are we going to ignore that and just focus on last season when he was a trainwreck while being used in a role he wasn’t suited for because we need a reason to hate the Rev?
First, who is the Rev? Second, I dont disgaree with you he’s been one of the best, most consistent defenders. Third, how could you argue he was playing a role that wasnt suited for him when he’s playing the same role this playoff season, top 4 minutes?
I think a lot of credit goes to jacques Martin with what he has done with this average looking defense group on paper they look weak compare every team they faced in the playoffs and possibly in finals too yet they are finding ways to defend and block shots better then those other teams good job JM underrated guy. He did same with the Habs few years back when they played vs caps and pens
But I might be wrong according to Stan JM is Canadian and he sucks and the American sully is the best. Yet sully himself said in a interview he relies heavily on JM decisions
Arrogant DB had the chance to work with JM instead they used him wrong and JM say wasn’t important since it had to do with defense
Bob Hartley!
yeah thanks to the arrogant Burke I wouldnt be surprised if flames hire Wilson or Carlyle 2 has been Dinosaurs that will ruin the team more just like they did with the leafs
maybe jew bettman wants that as soon as a canadian team has potential he sends those clowns to ruin it
You’re a moron. Hey. chubby traded yet?
You’ve seriously never heard them refer to him as the Reverend Lovejoy or just Rev for short? I agree that as the playoffs have progressed his minutes have slowly increased due to injury but the actual role he’s played in those minutes is very different. Last year he was forced to be 1 of the top defenseman due to injury, this year he has become 1 of their best defenseman by being allowed to be a complementary player as opposed to last year when he was more of a foundation player.
Lovejoy has proved me wrong; he deserves an A grade in my book
same goes for Cole
In all seriousness, I think games 3-6 really illustrate how the play of the team greatly effects the play of the goaltender in most games, in Game 3 the team held true to the defensive structure they have displayed throughout the playoffs, Murray only faced 18 shots through the 1st 2 periods(most of which were harmless shots) while the team pulled out to 2-0 & 3-1 leads before eventually winning 4-2, in Game 4 the defensive structure disappeared, TB controlled the play and put 30 shoots on net in the 1st & 2nd periods, Murray was never able to settle… Read more »
I would say that’s a true statement throughout the playoffs. The Pens have outshot and outchanced the other team. They have controlled play and the beneficiary has been the goalie, which ever goalie was in net (except for Zak in game 1, He saved their bacon). That said, Fleury could not withstand 24 shots, mostly harmless. That’s the difference.
I wouldn’t exclude Murray’s 47 save game against the Caps either, that was a rare example of the times where a goalie does single-handedly carry a team that has been outperformed. I wouldn’t argue with you about MAF’s performance in Game 5, I really only included it because I was using the Game 3-6 as a sample size and I do honestly believe that game was still a 50/50 split between poor play from MAF and the team in front of him.
ok (jay, see how short my post is)
Remember how a minute a go you left a post that called me intellectually dishonest for me noting that game 5 is your go to for why you have completely written MAF off? Weird how I would have concluded that hey… before you respond, go see what I said on the subject 😉
“mostly harmless” – 1st goal, partly on MAF, partly a terrific shot yes… second goal, Kucherov left untouched after a horrible line change and Letang completely vacating his position, MAF comes out to challenge the player that took the slot and put himself into scoring position but suddenly dished to Tampa’s most dangerous player? Thats on MAF? 3rd goal… partly on a MAF for the rebound but he did kick it into a corner which is standard… Letang lets Kucherov go for the second time this game and MAF can’t recover… 50/50 at worst. Winning goal? shot thats probably going… Read more »
Since Zero touched on it below, I feel compelled to share my enlightened opinion to help educate the masses, this notion that MAF has or should have played his last game in Pittsburgh is just absurd, thank God that the people that actually run NHL franchises don’t operate them under the same personal bias mindset that the majority of the fan base judge them with, only a fool would take a position of strength and turn it into a potential position of weakness unnecessarily. They only thing that could potentially force the organizations hand would be MAF asking for or… Read more »
My guess, they keep him till the trade deadline… that said IF the PA wins its push to maintain NTC/NMCs in the face of expansion he may be a Penguin longer.
Last I heard it was only going to be the full NMC/NTCs that requires automatic protection, players with only partial NMC/NTC would still be eligible to be selected if not protected, this would actually make MAF an eligible player since he only has a partial. This of course is still just rumor and speculation until expansion becomes official.
Ahhhhh so instead of taking them off the market they are forced to protect… FFS! Again, teams that should be moved are maintained and then we try another desert team. I would be shocked if they didnt move forward with expansion.
With that said, I do have to admit that there’s a small part of me that is praying they win the Cup this year and do make the moves people like Yoda and Maloni are suggesting and it blows up in their face. There’s nothing better than watching Yoda squirm when his opinions are proven to be asinine.
way to go Zero, now you have Jay boring the shit out of us with his poems. Only poster I know wh follows a 900 word essay with another comment.
I was afraid that if I continued and didn’t break them up into a 900 word essay followed by a comment it would be too many words for you to comprehend, I knew I was already pushing my luck with the original post.
sorry Jay, brain overload. cant follow you.
Ya but at least when he posts I can tell he was typing with his hands and not his asshole like you, yoda and sam have perfected!
Im always on my Iphone and my fingers are just huge, I mean huge.
Ok, Jay. I read your entire post word for word. Youre welcome. I agree, the best time to move Fleury is at the trade deadline next year when prices are highest. That said I would be comfortable moving him at the draft if they get a good deal. Ditching his salary cap hit if worth the risk. Murray and [insert gaolie name] are good enough to win in the regular season.
I respectfully disagree, the risk of Murray having to prove himself over the full season plus playoffs while only being protected by [insert goalie here] is the unnecessary risk. Cap space is worthless to a win now team unless there is a player available that improves the team to spend that space on, them simply having more cap space does them no good without using that space on an upgrade elsewhere. Being that there is no cap in the offseason, there’s really no need to make that move to open space, if they upgrade the roster and are over then… Read more »
Thanks for the comments Jay. This page has degenerated into a Fleury bash hub. This team has two great goaltenders. I couldn’t agree more on keeping both. Maybe their hand is forced, but otherwise 6M budgeted to a 1-2 tandem is a nice number.
All jokes aside, it’s pretty amazing what your star players can do when your goalie gives you a chance to win.
Wonder where they were for the 3+ weeks they did next to nothing while Murray was in goal!
I would actually say it’s pretty amazing what your goalie can do when the star players give him a chance to win. Last night’s game was already 3-0 and Murray had faced a whooping 11 shots through 2 periods. Last night’s game was ALL about the team playing great in front of Murray and giving him a great cushion to weather the storm with at the end, it wasn’t about Murray standing on his head and keeping the team in the game until they found a way to win. Your welcome for educating you once again.
In order to educate you need someone willing to learn, its very evident this guy and the little green puke have no desire to understand.
Honestly, havent learned anything about hockey from you. Otherwise you seem lke a decent dude aside from the anger isuses.
This whole argument is absurd. So one person is arguing that the goalie is playing bad because the forward is and the other is saying the forward is playing bad because the goalie is. This is hilarious.
Except Murray made the stops when he had to. That’s the difference.
So the Pens win an elimination game; looked good doing in for all but 10 minutes (or less); Crosby, Letang, and Malkin had a good game (minus the predictable brain cramp from Malkin); and the kids that helped get them there in the 1st place all looked that good again… but enough about the game and its potential positive repercussions what we really need to focus on is how managements poor decision to play a guy who just returned from concussion and hadnt seen any real action in over a month and a half resulted in a iffy showing which… Read more »
**** zero, shorten it up buddy. No one cares what you think that much, and youre way too angry. I worry about your health.
I love how you keep referring to me being annoyed with your stupid as anger. The fact that I had come out here to celebrate a win and all I read is anti-MAF rhetoric from you and yoda is what inspired the TL:DR post about you two. You guys are idiots, plain and simple!
Fleury to quebec
Bishop to vegas
the big question is is Murray Ready to play 60+ games a year in the playoffs we saw at times he was getting mentally tired at times with soft goals
Kinda like Fleury, Mentally tired before the game starts. Mental Midget no more!
Zero, what do you think Fleury’s pyschiatric bill is going to be this summer?
For what… having his best statistical year then being sidelined by a concussion? More proof you don’t get it.
Actually proof you dont get it. I could give a shit about the regular season. he’s aproven loser in the playoffs. he debate is over. Dude is not part of “the core” and he’s not the best goalie on the roster and he wasnt the last time the Pens were in th conf finals.
“proven loser” with a ring to prove it. The simple fact remains that had he got to the playoff healthy this year I argue he plays as well as he has in 14 and 15… with the new found offence the team probably wins the way they are now. Your only argument is how he played in game 5… after a significant layoff due to concussion. He was clearly a much better player since the coach and shrink that he was the preceding couple years.
Come on dude, now you’re not being intellectually honest. “My only argument is how he played in game 5”. Seriously? My only argument is his overall body of work in the playoffs since 2009. Way too unrelable to be a “franchise goalie”. Doesnt matter what eithe rof us think. The Pens have decided, Fleury does not given them the best chance to win. debate over.
If you were talking about his overall body of work then why do we continue to speak of his last 2 years like he was shit? 2014 he had a .915 SV% w/ a GAA of 2.40 (Niemi won a cup with a .910 and 2.63 GAA; Quick was .911 with a 2.58 GAA in 2014) and in 2015 he was .927% with a 2.15 GAA!!! Recent history tells us that had the team in front of him played like they have been this year we would have had a lot more success! “The Pens have decided, Fleury does not… Read more »
I think you meant to say psychologist and you meant it as a knock on Fleury. This is not a knock on Fleury. Part of being an adult is admitting that the things going on in your head need to be brought out into the open and challenged by someone neutral.
How often does Kessel put the puck in his own net? No mention of Tampa’s luck isn’t surprising as D panders to the most pessimistic fan.
talk about luck i find Murray has more luck then his skills so far Fleury didnt get as many as luck as murray in game 5 also team playing more conservative in front of murray
Not true at all sam, murray puts himself in almost perfect position to make each save…one knock i’ll put on fleury is he is almost never in perfect position, hes always flopping to make saves at times…no luck for murray he made his own luck by being in solid position for each shot…..i dont hate fleury either but your comment is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off base
I agree with you at some certain point but alot of time when he losses the track of the puck he is lost and some teammate bails him out and he leads 2016 playoffs with the most soft goals allowed . Does he have potential to be a world class goalie my answer is yes i did say prior he can be the next carey price but he still young 21 and has time
Youre right Fleury has no luck. Guy is a jinx, which is why he WAS the franchise goalie duirng a period when the “core” underperformed.
What does Zetterberg think about game 7?
ESPN wooooould cover the game for twenty seconds, BUUUUUTTTT Golden State did something so 48 hours of coverage to ensue.
couldnt pay me to watch an NBA game. rather watch Fleury in a must-win situation.
Whatever happens in game 7 Im just glad Fleury isnt part of the core anymore.
I’m going to enjoy next year soooo bad. The meltdown here is going to be epic. It’s not even worth talking about till after this year though.
Great post Sam
Sitting Sheary was a great move, he was not good for quite awhile. Chalk it up to inexperience but the game off was huge for him!
Admit it zero, if you were coach Bennett and Pouliot would have been in the line up.
Still going to that Pouliot well hey. I hope you bring a little less BS to the people in your personal life. Would be shitty to call someone like you a close friend knowing that they can’t get their facts straight! “BLOW IT UP”
On that note, I am really not shocked to see you were oblivious to how bad Sheary was playing. Kid earned the night off plain and simple.
He was playing no worse than Sid or Malkin. Should have given them the night off.
Ya its the same thing… Two superstar caliber talents that have 10+ years in the game vs an early-mid 20 something 1st year NHLer who MIGHT be good enough as a top six at best. The exact same thing. you’re ability to prove you have no idea what you are talking about is almost as impressive as yodas.
Did you not say dress Bennett for game six instead of Sheary…are you going to won that or “Pouliot” us again?
“going to won that”? You have been hanging out with sam again?
While I fully admit I was leaning towards Bennett on this one because I felt he had a strong game and Sheary had absolutely been garbage, I also said that maybe the game off for Sheary would spark him like it did the last time he sat.
Again at this point we are close enough to verify my exact words as I once did with this utterly ridiculous Pouliot argument! Keep trying chucklehead!
Did you not say that “Pouliot looked good”! I saw you post that. It’s alright dude. Your observations have seldom been right, I stll like you.
I said Pouliot was fine… you keep saying I said he looked good. You stated he was a train wreck in a game where he was not an issue… the following game he was hot garbage. We have gone over this a few times now.
Malkin never disappoints you with his offensive zone penalties imagine if tampax scored on it
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That’s not a hot dog Cart it’s a hot dog mobile
They didnt, so its a stupid what if
Not me.
I just enjoy watching certain people on here jump off the bridge after a loss. It’s pretty enjoyable.
I think you are talking about shitt stain. i mean stan he hasnt been here since pens won last night
Nope. Stanch, Jay, Mstar, Balth, Jeff, zero, and Maloni are pretty much the only people on here that are worth reading that can form a sting hockey opinion, even if I don’t agree with it.
Everyone else, it’s just entertainment in that it’s like watching a cripple fight or something.
I never seen stan talking about hockey not once all he does is bash crosby and letang
how about your buddy npl
Schaff you started the positivity train today!
And ya’ll thought we were done hahaha
pens management is lucky. they have a shot at a game 7 after pissing away game 5 to get their buddy in. i hope they learned their lesson.
For Stan…..Fraud
Ya, it was such a challenging game for the goalie. Fucking Zatkoff probably wins game 6. Thank god Drouin was off by 2 inches.
Dont kid yourself. Fleury would have found a way to lose that game. He always does.
Ya, he probably would have let in a Boyle wrister from the circle.
You mean when Cullen pushed him back in his crease and he couldn’t come out and cut down the angle.
Murray stopped 18 shots in the 3rd. Tampa had more shots and better scoring chances than they did in game 5 vs your patron saint.
You sir, are a funny guy and obviously blind if you think Murray had to do anything special to win.
I’ll be there Thursday can’t wait!
Need to do something about Maatta’s gap control. He gives up the blue line too easily. Bolts cross ice break outs are a slam dunk with Maatta on ice
Man, really like John Cooper. Cool dude
Yeah me too. Brutally honest.
Hedman -4. In Letang territory.
They’re abusing him this series.
Sadly npl doesn’t see that
Play Fleury. Go with the vet, he has game 7 experience.
You can’t be serious?
Dusty is 12. He’s never serious.
He is Simply Dusty for a reason
Green Arrow = hotdog bun
Simply Dusty I am coming to Pittsburgh for the Open, can I count on you being down in Oakmont?
I live there, so yes.
Technically your mom lives there. You rent a basement room.
Fuckk him too in know Stan and npl are Wtf this is becoming a kindergarten