Morning Pens Buzz
The Pittsburgh Penguins had a couple different plans in place this week on how they were going to attack free agency on July 1.
Everything would be determined by whether cap space would be created or not this weekend at the draft.
One day into the draft, the Penguins are moving forward this off-season with intentions that a significant amount of cap space will not be created via a Marc Andre Fleury trade or any other moves.
“We’re going to have our nose right up against the cap,” Rutherford said on Friday.”
A trade market for Marc Andre Fleury has not evolved to the Penguins’ surprise. While the Calgary Flames were linked to Pittsburgh heading into this week, Calgary and Pittsburgh never engaged in substantive talks with offers exchanged, sources say. Calgary’s attention was on other targets in the days leading up to Friday’s acquisition of Brian Elliott.
Pittsburgh was never presented with the same offer the Flames made for Elliott or any offer at all from the Flames when it comes to their current backup netminder.
Where does that leave Fleury’s future?
The Penguins are accustomed to the fact right now that Fleury is going to start the season in Pittsburgh or barring something unforeseen developing, it won’t be a trade that creates much of any cap space. The Penguins internally don’t see that type of trade being out there at any point this summer, especially before July 1.
“We may be a little bit active on the first of July, but it’s not going to be one of the top guys,” Rutherford said.
The Penguins still feel they could be in the market for a complementary player who wants to chase a championship at a discount or rebuild his value.
Jim Rutherford publicly stated again on Friday that his preference is to start the season with both goaltenders.
“That’s the preference,” Rutherford said. “That’s been our preference from the end of the season.”
Trading a goaltender with a $5.75 million cap hit then becomes extremely difficult during the season.
The stance the Penguins continue to take about it being their preference is an easy one to take when there’s little to no market.
Right now there just isn’t a market for Fleury.
Maybe Ottawa circles back at somepoint this summer but we shall see.
— The Penguins hold the 55th and 61st overall picks in the second round. Looking to restock their prospect group on the blueline, the Penguins will take a defenseman with one of the picks.
“It’s a very, very deep draft,” Rutherford said. “Our guys feel good that we’re getting two good players that will play with the Penguins some day. I think based on where our organization is at, ideally we get at least one defenseman there, maybe two. But we’ll see how it falls.”
The Penguins love puck skating defenseman who can skate and two names to watch on their radar today include Shawinigan’s Samuel Girard (5-9, 165) and Adam Fox (5-11, 185) of the USA Under-18 program. Girard is one of the most offensively gifted defenseman in the draft, scouts tells me. Elite speed and quickness and would be a bona-fide first round prospect if he was three inches taller.
— The Penguins will tender restricted free agent Beau Bennett but I’m told it’s a situation similar to Tyler Kennedy in 2013, retain the rights as a paper move but try to find value for a trade as both sides realize a fresh start is needed. Pittsburgh was able to get a second round pick for Kennedy that helped them move up to select Tristan Jarry.
Just don’t see the Penguins being as lucky with Bennett. The Penguins are again floating Bennett’s name to see what type of interest is out there, league sources say. The team would love to get back into the third round in this deep draft and are shopping Bennett for a third rounder. A Bennett trade is considered better than To read this insider news, subscribe to get “Inside Access”!
A high second rounder for the mental midget would have been worth shedding the cap hit.
Since bennett been drafted in 2010 he has played 129 games let’s see how many years will it take for him to hit the 200 game mark. I say 3 years minimum
It’ll probably be next year then because you’re wrong ad nausea
I doubt he would play 71 games next year most he has ever played so far is 33 games and was this year
Yeah. But you doubt a ton of things and you’re wrong. All. The. Time.
Or he becomes a penguins killer.
Bennett more valuable than fleury.
Bennett must be a future 1st ballot hall of famer. Hahahaha
Are there any local guys expected to be drafted this year? D is too busy making stuff up to write anything about the draft.
He is on Twitter parroting Josh Yohe and DK. He doesn’t have the balls to say that shit here tho because then yoda wouldn’t continue to tickle his taint
What a loser.
None that I’m aware of, I believe Jordan Timmons will be draft eligible next years and Paul Maust and Alex Cretz(sp?) should be eligible the following year or the year after. I would expect that all 3 should get drafted at some point.
Fleury to Columbus rumors heating up according to Eklund. Who the hell is his source KingPuck?
Fleury curse !
Curse of Fleury… We have only had two cup winning seasons with him on the roster!
And three finals appearances. But I digress.
Despite fleury. Yes you’re right.
Yeah. Back to back finals. Despite him. You and Sam would be stars in the special olympics.
Yes, and he was instrumental in the cup run without his game 5 loss where would the penguins have been.
Where would they have been had he not been one of two reasons the team wasn’t out of the playoffs for good come December… So there is that!
I heard shero is preparing a 3some party with tk and bennett all they are missing is orpig
I heard you’re running the camera with your pants around your ankles. Per sources.
The best part about potentially starting the season with both goalies is going to be Fleury out playing Murray in camp and the preseason thus earning the #1 spot to start the season and then watching Yoda try to spin it into how he was actually right.
Of course he will. It will be “propaganda machine loyal to MAF, I looooooove it”
I don’t know why you guys feed him. He’s an idiot. His life sucks and the only 2 things he cares about is making sure his union dues are paid because he could never hold a job on his own and talking smack on fleury.
Dishwashers have union too
Dude who is writing your shit today? Lol. You should keep them… This one is also fire haha
Because it pure entertainment.
Yoda logic… Beau Bennett gets the Penguins a third but Fleury is worth a 5th and the Pens retain 5 million.
We should have just blown the roster up like he had said every day for about five years which is inclusive of time well past the hiring of Sullivan and Murray being forced into action!
Fucken fuckface champion of the world Craig!
Just like Leafs taking a portion of kessels contract. Apparently pens are taking a portion of bennett’s medical bills next year lol
That’s actually funny.
Gaydogg what happened with pens chosing bennett over shultz
They didn’t choose Bennett over Schultz, they qualified one because he was cheap and used it as trade bait. Schultz would cost 3.6 million minimum to tender and offer to. Don’t be a yoda!
First they did choose Bennett over Shultz in regards to QOs because Bennett got 1 and Shultz didn’t so I’m not even sure what your talking about, I never once said Bennett would play for the Pens again just that they choose to qualify him. You really are bad at this.
It looks like the idea was to qualify Bennett for the purpose of moving him.
I remember when stan said he sat on this site because he was “already on the computer at work”. Well, its saturday and the idiot is still glued to TIOPS. Nice life, loser
Him and npl take turns sometimes when the library has another computer free they both join at the same time
Remember when you thought we were both the same person? Another brilliant Sam call. #SamKnew
I find it funny when McKeesport white trash wearing Velcro Payless shoes calls me a loser. Bravo!
I love it, every credible insider including Dreger and MacKenzie claim that Rutherford asked or told Calgary it would take the #6 pick to acquire Fleury’s services but Depaoli’s source claim nothing was ever discussed. Geeze I wonder whose sources we should believe.
American sources are more accurate
Apparently bennett will play for pens again according to Stan and gaydogg
I believe he did. In the playoffs. After you said he wouldn’t. Another great call by Sam.
Bennett injured yet ?
As you said before
Mr gaydogg pens will bring bennett back over shultz
Sam sucks at EASHL
That’s so white trash McKeesport
Lol you need some new material. Idiot
Homewood white trash
Sam thinks there are white people in homewood
When you move above the poverty line, I guess I’ll have to. But I’m not holding my breath.
Yessssss remember I said hope shero takes him so he can molest him there now it became true. Bennett and TK with shero haaa
Beau Bennett shipped to NJ for a third round pick.
Ray trusts Limp wrist
Vanek(4)-Crosby(8.7)-Horni(4.25), Sheary(.575)-Malkin(9.5)-Rust(.64), Hagelin(4)-Bonino(1.9)-Kessel(6.8), Wilson(.625)-Sundqvist(.700833)-Kuhnhackl(.625) with Porter and some bum being the taxi squad each making .6. Letang(7.25)-Maatta(4.083), Dumo(.8)-Daley(3.3), Cole(2.1)-Schenn(3) with Pouliot as the taxi squad at .863333. Fleury (5.75) and Murray (.62) between the pipes. That leaves .6 in cap space. Space created by dumping Fehr and Kunitz for draft picks!
Vanek is lazy and slow we don’t need that bum. Let shero take him since he likes washed up players
You’re dumb. The guy can score. Throw him on a line with 2 hustle players like Crosby and Horni and his 20-25 goal seasons turn into 30+. If he will take a short 1 or 2 year deal jump on it. Kessel lazy and slow also…
vanek is washed up and he cant skate what an awful move that would be
Congratulations you just made the Pens worse.
No market for fleury but some of you figure he’s worth more than anderson. Lol. Play isn’t everything when moving a player. Age, contract, past performances, injuries, market and where teams are at play a huge roll in why the pens will need to find a desperate team to take him. That or they might have to give up picks to move him to save murray. It will be nice to have the goalie insurance for this year but God help us if it costs us murray in the end.
What if the Penguins sign Murray to a new contract that includes a no-movement/no trade clause? Would they then be able to keep both or have the option of selecting the one that they do not want to protect?
I don’t think it would help as murray’s no movement wouldn’t kick in until after the expansion draft. Didn’t look anything up though. That’s just my guess on what would happen.
Going into next year with both goalies would be a good thing. You have a veteran you know you can count on while you have a rookie just learning how to deal with the grind of a full nhl season. If they carry both goalies, it will be interesting to see how they manage the starts.
This is the right way they share the net 50/50. At least.Then slowly Murray can get used to the long seasons. As I said Murray is the future but not right now and you don’t trade fleury now and then expect Murray play 60+ games the kid would collapse
I wonder what the market would be like for Vanek. I’d love to get him for 1 year to play with Crosby and Horni within the 2-3 million range. Gotta move some salary like Fehr and Kunitz to do it though.
Vanek is garbage and a washed up player as I said before he won’t live up to his contract an that’s exactly what happened while there were few Clowns here drooling over him before he went to Minnesota
Any time you say “as I said before” I immediately look to see what the previous poster it dead on about.
Everyone hear stumps for Minnesota! As I said before!
Another horrible use of what little cap space the Pens have, they just won the Cup because of their team speed and every suggestion you make is to get slower.
12 first round picks were Americans yesterday it’s a new record for Americans. Their most was 11 in 2011
Just goes to show that there are a lot of smart GMS in the league that want to see their teams make the playoffs.
Very serious here, it does suck the pens can’t move the Saint. 6 million in cap relief would help and now they risk losing Murray to Las Vegas. Rutherford screwed up with that no movement clause.
Yoda again proving he’s ready nothing about the expansion draft. It’s like you try to look as dumb as possible.
Bennett injured yet?
Murray is going to start 65 games next year, win the Vezina, Calder, and the cup and then he will be off to Las Vegas while you worms get to keep your patron saint. It’s going to be hilarious! All hail st bleury!!!!
Fuckin A. Bro. You are really something a real piece of work
I bet you talk about fleury all day in your house and annoy the shittt out of your family
another stellar yoda prediction. Write this one down folks. Tear it down! Can’t win!
It honestly feels like Yoda goes out of his way to try to be as wrong as possible every time he makes a prediction, I’m starting to think he gets off on looking like a fool.
With about 2 million in cap space (assuming no movement of Fehr or Kunitz), they need to add a 5/6 d. Kris Russel, Matt Barkowski, Luke Schenn and John-Michael Lyles are the tires I would kick. Lyles and Schenn would need to take BIG paycuts.
I don’t see and of those guys fitting the way the Pens play, no need to ruin the party by over paying for a turd, our punch bowl is just fine without it. They’re better off just letting Pouliot play full time than using their remaining cap space on any of those guys.
It’s funny, I tell you he sucks, no GM in the NHL wants him, and now you worms are going to tell me how dumb I am. Looks to me like I told you so…again…and I looooooooove it!
Enjoy that 5th round Pittsburgh!
Your posts speak for themselves, we don’t need to say anything when it comes to how dumb you look.
As much as I hate agreeing with Simply Dustin, this post is spot on, no need to tell you anything because the proof is everywhere.
a goalie?? lol let the rumors begin
Spin enough propaganda, and then you start to believe it. How could the pens honestly be surprised that there is no market for the playoff choking goalie of his generation? The pens are going to ship st bleury at the deadline and eat 80% of his contract unless they want to lose Murray.
Why not it’s clearly worked for you, you’very spun your incorrect predictions to the point that you actually think you were right when the entire board has PROVEN time and time again just how wrong you always are.
Kulikov to buffalo
Yoda had another great prediction night. Enjoy that 5th round pick for Fleury Pittsburgh!
Look at you spinning things. I said if st bleury goes the pens are getting a 5 th round pick and retaining the majority of his salary. That’s how it’s going to go down. The pens are stuck with him because he sucks.
No no. You predicted a 5th. Yogurt! Fraud.
You said a 5th and 5 million you lying piece of shit
With the 16/17 team being pretty much the exact same team as the 15/16 team, we already know the team’s outcome. They stink and need blown up by December. You can’t win with those bums.
Wasn’t there just an article about Calgary saying no to JR’s demand for #6 overall for Fleury? Then Calgary offering #6 + package for Murray? Now today there never was any talks between Pitt and Calgary eventhough multiple other sources over the past few days say there were. How can you continue to write these articles full of bullshit and lies and continue to call yourself a journalist? You have as much credibility as Yoda. 2 clowns as my boy Sam would say.
Captain Crunch! My favorite!