Penguins 6 – Oilers 5 (OT)
Sidney Crosby’s night vs the Edmonton Oilers:
2 Goals, including a dazzling overtime goal, 5 shots on goal, 16 of 20 (80%) on faceoffs, and was the Penguins best possession player 5-on-5 at 62%.
As for the Sidney Crosby vs Connor McDavid matchup:
Crosby was at 66% in possession (19/10) head-to-head against McDavid, +6 (10/4, 71%) in Scoring Chance For Percentage.
It quite interesting how Crosby owned the Austin Matthews matchup and then turned in a similar performance vs McDavid, at least from a numbers standpoint.
Crosby gets up for every game no matter the opponent, but I think there was some extra motivation from his end.
Connor McDavid is the worlds greatest player right now, there’s no question about that, but Crosby is still holding stock in being the league’s most dominant 200 ft player.
He showed that again Tuesday night.
— Was Sidney Crosby’s overtime goal a top-10 goal all-time for him?
It was a beauty but as great as it was, hard to count a 3-on-3 goal as one of his greatest goals.
— Pittsburgh’s record now sits at 4-1-2 through seven games.
A big reason for that record is because Pittsburgh is one of the NHL’s most top heavy teams with two lines that can burn you at any moment. We’re seeing that about every night so far this season.
As currently constructed, things are setting up where the Penguins will have to live and die with their top-2 lines, top pairing and goaltender being able to carry them.
What hasn’t changed is inconsistent play from the bottom-6 and a blueline that can be greatly overmatched in a league that is getting faster and faster.
— Alarming trends for the Penguins despite the record? Pittsburgh was outshot again, 46-31, including 39-25 at even strength.
The Oilers were +7 in high danger chances
I’m not a believer the Penguins need to be a great possession team because they have a group of stars who just need one shot, but you’re not getting out of the East with the high danger chances they give up and the only improvement on the backend is going be through a trade.
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— The Penguins have a Jack Johnson problem.
There’s no sugar coating it.
This is a guy who’s a 12 year NHL veteran, he’s not all of a sudden going to start developing great defensive awareness/instincts which has been a career long problem for him.
John Tortorella was on to something last spring that no coaches have been willing to do with Johnson in seeing he’s a borderline No. 6 caliber of a defenseman.
Johnson was on the ice for all 5 goals against vs the Oilers and there were just some brutal shifts.
The Penguins were able get their media friends put positive PR out all summer on the Johnson signing in that doing a 5 year deal got the cap hit lower but as I stated in the past, Pittsburgh negotiated against themselves and this signing is just not going to end well in a league that is becoming so fast.
How much patience will the coaching staff have with Johnson? That will be telling even with the Justin Schultz injury. Sullivan has never been shy about scratching Olli Maatta who’s on a long-term deal.
The Jim Rutherford dynamic, though, looms.
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— The going continues to get tough for Daniel Sprong. He had that ‘meme’ moment in the corner against Alex Chiasson that led to an early second period goal and only had one shift after that.
The issue on the goal against wasn’t Sprong getting knocked down, he completely lost Chiasson on the play after getting up, another scenario that highlights why the coaching staff doesn’t trust Sprong to play him at even strength.
Too much East-West play from Sprong when entering the offensive zone and no trust from him away from the puck is just not a good situation for the team and Sprong’s development to be in.
There’s no where else to play Sprong.
Mike Sullivan is not in the game to develop players so the Sprong situation is playing out as a lose-lose for everybody and into the season I felt a trade eventually was the most likely scenario and right now this feels like a Derick Pouliot situation than transforming into a success story.
Sprong played just 3:37 into the game and for the second straight game, Pittsburgh went with 10 forwards down the stretch.
That can’t continue long-term through an 82 game schedule especially when one of the 10 forwards getting regular playing time is a 42 year old.
Pittsburgh’s 4th line could use more of an energy presence of a heavier possession type player.
Dominik Simon’s benching was a bit more surprising. [hide]He got a primary assist on Hornqvist’s first period goal and then nearly setup Derick Brassard for a tap-in goal late in the second period on what was his last shift of the game.
Pens won 9-1. Where is D
Awe, your so much like your mother… enjoy a good pounding after a win from your favourite te…. player? Don’t worry, ask yo momma for the D youre looking for
You must be satisfied from sid’s D after getting off from Mcdavids D
To be clear is that the Vancouver McDavid?
Watching last nights Montreal game.
Mike yeo might be on the hot seat
Neal – 4
No fraud Murray? No lazy Russian? No chubby Phil?… It is funny how quiet you are when Montreal loses and the Penguins win.
Murray is about a .914 after tonight… ask Sam what MAF is at
Murray 5 games played
fleury 8 games played.
Less exposed .
How’s the GAA ?
Lol, SV% is the stat traditionally looked at as the goalies stat, the one they are in control of. GAA? Give it a few games… then watch you move the goal posts anyway.
-3… Tkachuk was -4
And you are -5
You mean after Kessel and Malkin showed you up yet again? Naw bruh
Minus that weak goal by Neal this may have been the most complete game they have played in a long time!
Sullivan sits Sprong and even Simon gets going lol
Pull Fraud Murray!
Shitty was to lose the goose egg but Neal’s a cuntt killing my pool so… I’ll take the goal
Grant and Chad are looking good tonight.
Why does Brassard get to play with Crosby and Sprong gets scratched? The regular season does not matter.
Because Sullivan doesn’t understand the politics of offence
I might quit my job so I dont have to go to Montreal. What a nightmare.
Hopefully I can go to McDonalds and make $15 minimum wage blah blah blah
Keep your $15 minimum wage protest elsewhere
Maybe you can ask “double fists” ma, “the quad”, if she needs a driver.
What do ya think Sam? Would you like your mother to dial back the incalls on school nights?
We don’t want fat people in Montreal
Like I said, only a matter of time before Sid breaks out. People like Same wanting to trade him and take the C away from him know nothing about hockey.
Brassard is better
Nice pass Brassard… talent is obvious, I mean unless you’re a fucken moron, but he’s struggling to find any consistency and production. With 2A maybe it will finally get him going a bit. He’s had a lot of looks
You’re awfully defensive.
It’s an observation… and I was wrong… 3 assists;)
We traded for him as much for this year, if not more, than last. He hasn’t done a lot this year, but I’ll take an 8 year sample size over an injury riddled 30 game sample size.
Sids carrying the puck like he used to through traffic. He will make a lot of noise that way!
Ohh look at you you just jumped of mcdavids cockk to go back on sids cock.
Whos your favorite team this week, Sam?
Lol, you struggled with that entire day didn’t you, You’re so simple you thought all that was pumping McDavids gas as opposed to hoping Sid established himself in that match up?
Flyers lost. That’s always fun.
So did Montreal.
It’s nice when you can roll 4 lines again.
One more and people will eat hot dogs for free
Haven’t you had enough “double fist”.
Fun fact… sams new nickname is his mother’s old one from high school… now she goes by “the quad” which frees this one up
Hornqvist, Kessel and Rust… and Scum Sully continues to bury Sprong and his political offence and whose at least better than Rust…
So quiet here tonight.
That should be Sprongs goal… thanks Scum Sully
Sprong is better then Rust lol
Because his offence is political and you can’t quantify that statistically
Sam hasn’t said boo about the Sid goal… imagine he’s more interested in Buffalo beating the Habs?
He is running his mouth on the Habs board. He will be here for the second period and he will pretend he watched the entire game.
Sorry clown was eating while watching
hot dogs are one handed food… guess you double fist
Sweet goal. Bad on Smith’s end. Shouldn’t get beat ever from that angle, let alone high when you’re 6’7″.
Why can’t they get the Mountie from
the wwf to sing the Canadian anthem?
700th game in a row for Punxsutawney Phil.
Sam, i just found out I need to go to Montreal for work. You want to watch some hockey together, friend?
Dude, you neither work nor watch hockey. But I like the idea of you and Same hanging out. Heal the divide.
Just invite maloni. He’s obviously salty about being left out.
Lol super butthurt. Sorry, Maloni. You can come too.
Are you building pipe bombs and hanging with antifa
Impossible we dont let fat people here.
I bet you are coming here to promote black lives matter
Good job mr bettman for Tom Wilson
Reeves 2 games in a row scoring
Congrats… you can read a box score.
reeves brings way more to a hockey club than brassard ever could. stupidest trade ever. the pens ship out the toughest guy ever who’s a good 4th liner, the top goalie prospect, and a 1st round pick for a 4th line center. just bad.
Lol funny thing about that is I think you are actually serious.
i am serious. an effective 4th liner, a 1st round pick, and the top goalie prospect in the world for brassard????? you don’t think that’s just slightly over paying for him??????
Most people are smart enough to wait to see how it plays out. There’s a good chance the pick and goalie don’t do much. A 32 year old 4th line winger with no record of ever producing is not more important than a quality 3c. Give me a break. Ryan Reaves blows !!!!?????!!!##
Hey Yoda you forgot to mention pens also made a mistake choosing fraud Murray over fleury
Nathan shut out at home vs Tampa.
Man, it’s not often I’m wrong but Johnson blows. Really thought he would be a nice fit. Sprong, Johnson, Maatta and Johnson – need to figure out how to turn those four into a top 4 LH D-man and a top 9 winger.
How many Johnson’s are on the Penguins? Anyone who thought signing JJ was a good idea was a fool. That includes GMJR.
I have two Johnsons
But. But but … his American
I’m here to please
You sure do. Jesus.
I’m glad pens dumped Reaves. Sprong, man that dude can play.
Sprong should get an award for check of the year on Chiasson. That is one of those I am having a bad day and I need something to laugh at moments.
is derek brassard any good? am i missing something? seems to be a dime a dozen center to me. they gave up a lot for that guy and i’m not getting it. (time for zero to tell us how brassard is an all star)
Brassard hasn’t been able to string it together. He’s never been an allstar regardless you dumbfuck! He’s a lot better than what weve seen out of him here and that’s the massive disappointment because they gave up a lot for a guy that’s failed to deliver in this jersey. Try again you fucken moron. I swear it’s like you’ve been reading sams stupid for 2 days and said “hold my beer”
I think he played under scum sully with the rags that’s they have a secret relationship not as strong as fraud Murray type relationship but enough to make him play in Pittsburgh.
Murray injured yet ?
Pens need to fix this problem fast. You know there is a problem when you have a few players playing under 4:30min. Thank God pens were losing or trying to win because if pens would’ve been wining it happened many times when they’re up 1 goal you even see chubby benched in halfway 3rd period. Because pens weren’t winning scum sully had no choice to keep chubby since he already has other ones in the dog house
The insight from the guy who just admitted he is more interested in Sids game than he is the success of the Pens is not required.
I was barking at Sid to show up vs McDavid but not in a million years does that replace a cup
Sid unblocked…. twice!
pens RW in order of skill: kessel, hornqvist, sprong, rust. naturally the guy with the least amount of skill has to play with crosby. super annoying.
Case in point… Sprong may have “untapped skill” but hes got the hockey IQ of an onion. This is why a guy touted as a top 5 skill in the draft he was in fell to the second round lol.
Sprong may be more “skilled” but Rust is a better hockey player, at the very least at this point of their careers and if Sprong cannot pull his head from his ass, or stay upright, that wont change
I would take a versatile player like Rust, a guy you can plug in on any line, a guy that can kill penalties and give your team a jump any day of the week over Sprong. Just because you have talent does not mean you are good at what you do. You can be the greatest guitar player in the world but if you can not write a great song no one cares.
That devasting check by Sprong on Chiasson was just hilarious.
jack johnson isn’t very good. i told you guys that the only reason they signed him was because sid was angry that reeves was traded so rutherford threw sid a bone on this signing to bring in a buddy. i am 100% right on this so i’m not going to argue back once zerocool writes a book telling me how wrong i am.
I don’t have to write a book… everything you say is inherently wrong.
So does Florida
Honestly pens winning cups I was happy but never went crazy but last night I never screamed that loud omg when sid scored. I don’t know why maybe the fact he did that vs oilers or the fact he shut zerotoool and his spoilers fans by drooling over mcdavid and saying his schooling sid and having him for breakfast
Proof you’re no Penguins fan and are simply on the Crosby bandwagon. My entire rant yesterday was about Sid showing up and making sure he proves to McDavid he is still number one as opposed to teh apathetic pedestrian performances we have seen in the past. Christ the pens are 5-0 (good) vs the Oilers but each game has been tight 1 goal games and 3 of them in OT all while the Oilers have maintained their status as a fucken doormat lol. End of the day, as I have pointed out on multiple occasions, you spend a significant amount… Read more »
He couldn’t care less about the Pens. Shut his tv and didn’t even get excited when they won two Stanley cups. Lol he’s happier when Crosby scores a goal in October. All you need to know about Sam the virginal bandwagon man.
Sam shut his tv down 2-1. Everyone saw it.
Tbj just appeared when pens were winning and after they won his mom woke him up
Still better than npl. That fat fuckks mom didn’t even wake him up to tell him pens won. Because she was busy in her ganggbang event
I heard that you still co-sleep with your mom and when she wakes you up its due to her fucken complete strangers…
Fourth Period Pagnotta has noted Edler may be on the move this year, nothing imminent but he would “guess” the Pens would be asking about him. Of course sam has understood this as its an Edler coming to Pittsburgh rumour and has advised the droolers to drool 🙂
On that note… if he is actually available? I am not sure what he is looking for next season but Maatta or JJ if the Nucks would take either along with Sprong would work for me.
No you moron I made fun of droolers here as soon. As pens name is here they start drooling as if it’s done deal and as if it will work out. The way Iggy people were drooling and I said Iggy won’t fit db system not only I was right he was also miss used by that clown . Now go drool like every drooler here doan coming to pens at TD because he wants to win a cup with contender and droolers always think penguins is the only place to play to win cup rest 30 teams is waste… Read more »
How bad was the erhoff , Douglas Murray. Paul Martin michalek all those players were ruined by DB system and were happy leaving Pittsburgh
Whaaaaaaaaaaa… you’re like a scorned GF still trying to figure out why DB hurt you but oblivious to the fact that its because youre such a fucken bitchh lol Also Michalek was trending down as he arrived, we thought the good team would make him a better player… it didn’t… injuries did him no favours. He did fuckk all when he left, retired in his mid 30s… Murray? A big body who had been on the downside of the career for a couple seasons.. ill advised trade, he had trouble keeping up in a league that was getting faster. He… Read more »
who the Fuckk is “floury”? You wrote that on the other page… who is he?
I remember exactly 2 people talking about Doan maybe… one was you and it was all about Canadian Doan vs American Kessel lol
“Hey droolers there is a rumour Edler to Pittsburgh” – thats you… thats you clearly saying Edler to Pittsburgh is a rumour when that is NOT what was said at all. It was pure speculation from Dave Pagnotta himself and even that was closer to the deadline lol.
Making fun of droolers
You really are a Tool
“there is a rumour Edler to Pittsburgh” – your own writing… clear as day
Derek Grant should be in the line-up. He scored 13 goals last year in Anaheim on the 4th line. He is bigger, better and adds energy and toughness. Daniel Sprong and Dominik Simon need to sit and Derek Grant and Zack Ashton Reese need to be in the line-up..
Sullivan wake up while your at it sit Johnson for a game or two….
Based on the lack of trust for Sprong how could it hurt at this point
Based on the way Sprong is playing I would replace him with Iceburgh, it would be an upgrade. He can probably throw better checks too.
As for Sprong? We have it on good authority that the problem is “Scum Sully” doesnt know offence… politically not strategically/statistically, and therefore Sprongs inability to stay upright and not lose his man like he was in Tyke distracted by something in the crowd is solely a function of not playing in a top 6 position. The authority has assured us that if Sprong was not being hampered by “Scum Sully” and his complete lack of ability to understand the politics of offensive hockey Sprong would have both stayed on his skates, not lost his man… but also would have… Read more »
Why is it hard to count a 3v3 as an alltime greatest when he undressed one bad and still avoided another with the 3rd, McDavid, watching in horror as he outwaited the goalie? IDGAF how many players were on the ice it was a great moment for Sid all time.
Sid is still the most complete and clutch player in the NHL..nobody is close Mc David is the leagues most dynamic and offensive threat not the best overall.
Agreed, while Sid isnt the dynamic scorer he used to be he is still capable of top 10 production (I would like to see what stable wingers would do for him, and he can still fall into that pass 1st trap which can slow him at times) and is a dominant force more times than not in all three zones. Guy is still in a league of his own for protecting and possessing the puck. I would like to see him have a late Joe Sakic type campaign and win another scoring title and MVP before he moves away from… Read more »
Agreed also sid goals are always new and different like last year he had 3 different goals batted mid air then had one handed goal vs sabres and it goes one while mcdavid is fun to watch but all of his goals or most of his goals rely on his speed which I am curious to see if he can still have that when his 33-35. Unless he has to reinvent himself like most real stars Hall of farmers do to last in league long if you are one trick pony you don’t last long as player as coach as… Read more »
*one trick pony trick – that’s what you meant to say right?
what’s for lunch, morons? -beerman