Penguins/NHL
Pipe Dream or Possibility?
With the trade deadline just over two months away, the Marc Andre Fleury situation is starting to reach a critical stage. While the Penguins remain unsure whether a trade is even possible before the trade deadline as Fleury’s trade market is limited, league sources contend, Fleury being relegated to only starting against crap teams during the Penguins last stretch of games has Fleury more frustrated than ever with the situation, a source close to the situation says.
A meeting is planned [hide] next week between the Penguins and the Fleury camp that could set the wheels in motion on both sides trying to find the ideal trade before March 1.
One trade suggestion that’s been floating around this week has come from prominent NHL insider Elliotte Friedman of Sportsnet who has been touting a Fleury – Jacob Trouba swap as the perfect trade for both sides.
Here’s what Friedman said about Fleury on Sportsnet 590.
“Yes, the days are definitely numbered [for Fleury],” Friedman said. “What I’m not 100 percent sure is the end game now or after the season. “Because I do think Pittsburgh looks at this like, we’re going to win the Stanley Cup again, or at least try to. And I think one of the things they’re asking themselves is, Are we a better team with Matt Murray being backed up by Fleury in case of injury, or are we a better team with Matt Murray in front of whoever and the piece we get in the trade for Marc-Andre Fleury.’ So I think that’s one of the issues.
“I think the other issue is Fleury has a no-trade to 12 teams. But I think the Penguins look at it like, okay, we’re not just sending him anywhere. He’s been a good soldier for us for a long time. As you mentioned, he’s been the backbone of the team for a long time. I think they want to make sure they send him into a situation where he’s happy. So I think they’re trying to fill those two issues. And the question is do they do it during the season, or do they do if after the season.”
Friedman added:
“I think a Trouba for Fleury deal would be perfect for both of those teams, but I’m not sure that Fleury wants to play in Winnipeg and it might just be a pipe dream of an observation from me.”
IS FLEURY FOR TROUBA REALISTIC?
Checking into this and the early consensus from NHL folks is that a Fleury for Trouba swap is a pipe dream based on the type of requirements the Jets laid out to rival General Manager’s on what they sought for a Trouba trade this past fall.
It would be a perfect trade for the Penguins but not the Jets.
When the Penguins looked into Trouba earlier this season, Fleury’s name never came up from the Jets angle, sources say. If Winnipeg had the appetite to acquire Fleury, he would have to be a complementary third piece than a main piece.
Winnipeg is also on Fleury’s no trade list for now.
One requirement the Jets seek in a Trouba trade is an impact young left handed NHL defenseman and a top forward prospect + a high pick.
Pittsburgh’s top-2 trade assets (left handed d-men) there would be Brian Dumoulin and Olli Maatta. Despite the up’s and down’s this season, Pittsburgh would not move Dumoulin in a package for Trouba.
When it comes to the Penguins system, rival clubs view the Penguins system as having two high end forwards with high trade value that puts you in the mix for impact players available like a Jacob Trouba, two goaltending prospects with mid tier trade value and a third forward in Oskar Sundqvist whose value around the league has started to grow.
Every club has a Teddy Blueger, Dominik Simon.
These are the main five that any time the Penguins would be looking to make an impact move, other teams would be asking for.
1. F Jake Guentzel
2. F Daniel Sprong
3. G Filip Gustavsson
4. G Tristan Jarry
5. Oskar Sundqvist
For Pittsburgh to realistically pull off a Trouba trade, multiple NHL executives believe a package would have to start with Olli Maatta and Jake Guentzel/or Daniel Sprong being the two main pieces to get the Jets attention. [/hide]
CLB flirting with history… 13 straight wins. Probably 14 when they see the Jets but its that game in Minnesota that will be the do or die, if they beat the Wild they may take a healthy run at 17 or more. Regardless only one of the teams on that list have ever won a cup anyway 😉
I think the wild is on a streak too
That was the point of the post and specifically mentioning them… thanks for playing sammich
Malkin… 4th Penguin all-time to hit 800 points with the team. What a fucken bum
First 4th liner / power play specialist, though – think about that.
Anyone think Pens will search waivers for a D to help with the losses?
Is there someone on waivers that you see as a potential fix there?
Dumo out 4-6 weeks after having surgery on broken jaw.
Huge loss 🙁
We have 2 games until the week off. Letang and Daley should be back by the end of that week. Pens can roll Maatta Letang/Cole Schultz/Pouliot Daley/Oleksy or Ruhwedel until Dumo is back. Even before the injury, I think the Pens needed an upgrade to their #7D. Lovejoy was actually playing #7D last year prior to the playoffs (after Schultz trade).
Dumoulin out 4-6 weeks – broken jaw.
Was just about to post this… people were wondering where the injuries were! Here they are. Good thing Letang and Daley started skating again
GAME WINNER ASSIST UPDATE Well – Geno yet again continues to turn all heads, continuing to rack up points in his exclusive 4th line / power play specialist role. Sid also climbs the ladder another slot, however in a far less impressive fashion, not being on the 4th line. Cole has really fallen into a rut – I feel for the guy – hasn’t notched a GWA in about a month and a half now. Malkin – 4 Crosby – 3 Cole – 3 Schultz – 3 Hornqvist – 2 Kessel – 2 Cullen – 2 11 tied w/ –… Read more »
How did Beau Bennett look?
Sam finding out who his father is…Pipe Dream or Possibility?
Based on what I’ve seen over the last four months, Id sign Schultz over Dumo.
Schultz has been an absolute home run.
Our 9.5m pp specialist looked good on the Devils 1st goal. Nice play by hall
He looked good on the penguins first goal, being that he scored it. How did you like your fellow French-Canadian dropping on a pass? It’s unreal that you watch as much hockey a you do and manage to be this clueless. Then again, your 14 inch with bunny ears probably doesn’t allow for good viewing, especially with your mom in front, taking a bukkake. #sameisadumbass
VS? Sid being the benefactor off the unreal play by Conor Sheary?
Game winner assist update coming tomorrow. Quick preview. A certain fourth liner continues to roll.
Wrong again Yogurt. #stoppostingthingsthatneverhappen
Nice win for MAF… guy has been solid his last 5. Smart move by Sullivan to give Murray the start vs the lessor team as he hasn’t looked too good as of late. A confidence boost vs a team like Carolina should help
I agree. Both goalies can build off of this if we win tomorrow.
Great to see MAF playing with some confidence again. The team was solid as hell down three regulars too… may not be as big a difficiency as it looked for a bit.
Looks like sam is thumbs downing everyone again
Schultz getting it done again. Unreal… I really hope the Pens find room to ink this guy.
What? Is he not getting it done? Should the Pens not ink him? Let me guess, it’s the US birth certificate right sammich?
Hey sammich… how bout that Crosby goal tonight? Would you say that’s 99% Sheary and 1% Sid or…?
Fourth line is so impressive.
st.bleury didn’t melt down last game. he’s due. the over/under for the saint is 4 tonight.
Go back into hiding. #fraud
Same, how is zatkoff doing in Florida?
He is jerking off npl
And you’re filming it. With a the blackberry your mom leased for you.
a new article this week — Pipe Dream or Possibility?
Terrible move. Bring back Ivan Hlinka.
isn’t he dead?
He was dead when he coached the Pens.
He was in charge of the immigration. The team was full of euro those years. Heard lemieux was one of the cause him getting fired
Shocking
“Those years”… 86 regular season games coached lol
i fully support the extention of sullivan. he is the only coach in the crosby era who doesn’t get on my nerves. any other coach, the pens would have had the patron saint in goal in the playoffs, matt murray would be the backup, and they would have had no cup in 2016.
Never sign an NHL coach to that long of an extension. In a year or two, Sid and Geno will have enough of his system and will be tanking games to get him fired. Not sure why the team needed this extension, but whatever. It means nothing other than they’ll be eating a contract after they fire him.
Stupid circus. DB that fraud got contract extension with a raise after getting swept by bruins
So giving an extension to a coach that just won a cup is the same thing?
You clown he was having early round exits since the cup and the entertaining series with the flyers year before yeah that’s smart let give him contracts extension with the raised based he went to conference finals thanks to round 1 and round 2 teams had 0 playoff experience.
And same was right back then after the contract extension what did I say now shero playing with fire if team fails he is gone and that’s what happened. I am not a fan of shero at all but I think if he never gave that contract extension with a raise he would’ve still. Have a job with pens. But doubt 2015 Stanley Cup based the way he trades players
Have toy ever made a sensible statement?
You have no idea how this chat was progressing do you? I was referring to Sullivan you dumbfuck
3 years? This could be the dumbest post of the year. Congratulations.
Except MAF was hurt you dumbcunt… the option wasn’t there. When he came back he wasn’t ready to play. Every single coach in the game would have played it the same way. It’s not complex but somehow you’ve blown it again.
Hey D, you forgot to do an instant buzz on the Steelers win. When you decide to post it, just back date the timestamp so we’re all fooled. Thanks and Merry Christmas.
Big Overrated. Bailed out by AB and Bell.
AB threw the ball to himself #bailout
Him and yogurt don’t have the mental capacity to blame anyone outside of the QB or goaltender for games. If they lose, it’s their fault.
Not a shock at all… guys won two rings as a starter… bum lol
Guy started for a team that won 2 out of 3 SB, he played like shit in 2 out of the 3. #raiseyourstandards
Hahahaha… “raise your standards” it’s the same unrealistic approach you bring to MAF “it’s the one he doesn’t make”. Most QBs dont even sniff a Super Bowl appearance let alone 3. Even less win 1 let alone 2.
I get it, guys like Dilfer have won but that doesn’t change the fact that your QB has got the job done on more than one occasion and has, though his career, been solid
And is a surefire hall of farmer.
Pretty much.
I will take credit for Ben’s improved play after I called him out. LOL!
No worries stain will thumbs down soon
Does anyone other than sam pay attention to the thumbs up / down? Because he’s obsessed with it.
What is the point of it? The Tri-Idiot Brigade uses it. They know who they are. The three headed monsters of idiots.
Just when I thought Ben couldn’t play any worse, he totally redeems himself!
How did he redeem himself. He was horrible. Even when he was able to complete passes he was off target. Night the game the smaller he plays. Fleury-esque
Dude lead them on 3 fourth quarter touchdown drives, that’s how he redeemed himself.
Bell led them to three scores. Dude was a beast.
Night the game the smaller he plays.
Final 3 drives of the game. Drive 1, 75 yards….Bell rush -2, rush 7 yards td…net 5 yards. Drive 2, 90 yards….Bell rush 23, rush 13, rec 7yds td. Drive 3, 75 yards….Bell never touched the ball. Did you even watch the game?
Yes, watched the game, played the game. #getoknowwhoIam
Bell was in beast mode the last 3 drives, who cares if he barely touched the ball on 2 of them. Maloni knows!!!
Yes, insure the ravens just ignored him.
Excellent job, basically assures everyone that he has now been corrected by every member of the board at least once lol
The Big Overrated shows up again.
Where’s maloni to chime in?
How many used analbeads did Sams mom gone him for Christmas? I’m putting the o/u at 4.5.
4.5 meters worth lol
who’s more magical….santa or st.bleury? merry christmas!
Rumors coming out of Montreal is that your mom has a magical tongue. #fraud
pipe dream
Look who came out of hiding! #fraud
Hey Sam, who is Nickster?
Some jabroni
New name for NPL or Gaydogg? Or has he been here before?
I dunno must be a hack
NPL’s boyfriend.
That you likely slept with in your mom’s car.
You are clearly not getting a toy from Santa this year.
I wonder if you mom re-upped your Sirius for another year.
Thanks for reminding it’s due for January 4
Yeah Sam. Don’t forget to get that check off of her.
What a stupid article.
No thank you Trouba
Mattaa is a bigger waste of money then trouba but people on this site thinks fleury salary or Crosby takes a lot of money just ask stain
“Back-up goalies should make 5.75m per year.” #fatsamlogic
You have Jimmy coward doing it.
“Toews making 10.5 mil while producing a total of 15 points is a good contract. Malkin making less and scoring twice is much is bad though.” #fatsamlogic
How is Parise doing while Eric staal carrying the team in his back with less money while Parise collects his bonus checks on July 1st
“Martin St. Louis is a better fit than Phil Kessel.” #fatsamlogic
That’s sam’s crown jewel. Guy retires a day later and then they go on to win a cup with Kessel when he should have won the Conn Smythe. That entire progression is pretty much frog sam in a nutshell.
What does any of that have to do with toews being the most overpaid player on the league? Don’t shift the goalposts sammich.
So the pens should follow that model? Genius.
I don’t think he’s reading your post, Maloni.
Trade mattaa before fleury pens need better D I rather go with Murray and fleury for the cup rather then mattaa in the lineup for the Stanley Cup.
Murray still doesn’t have a stable proven track record. And imagine fleury traded and Murray injured who do pens replace with in playoffs
I thought mattaa was getting traded for trouba
Fuck Trump
Wtv you say you fat Democrat
You probably work at the same donut store as stain