Penguins/NHL
TRADE DEADLINE TALK
With the trade deadline six days away, the Penguins are limited in their ability to move high draft picks in the next two drafts because of the stipulations from the Phil Kessel trade.
The conditions of the Kessel trade are this:
*If Pittsburgh qualifies for the 2016 post-season, Toronto will receive Pittsburgh’s 2016 first round pick and the Penguins will receive a 2016 second round pick from Toronto, which is Pittsburgh’s original 2016 second round pick that was traded to Toronto last February in the Daniel Winnik trade.
*If Pittsburgh fails to qualify for the 2016 playoffs, no 2016 draft choices change hands. Pittsburgh keeps their 2016 first rounder and Toronto keeps the 2016 second round draft choice from the Daniel Winnik trade. Under this scenario, Toronto then receives Pittsburgh’s 2017 first round pick and Pittsburgh receives a 2017 second round pick from the Maple Leafs. Both 2017 draft choices are tied to whether the Penguins qualify for the 2017 post-season or not.
*If the Penguins fail to qualify for the 2017 post-season, Toronto receives a 2017 second round pick from Pittsburgh and the Penguins keep their 2017 first rounder.
With their 2016 and 2017 first round draft picks tied to the Kessel trade, pending the Penguins qualifying for the post-season or not, Pittsburgh cannot trade either in deals before the deadline.
If the Penguins are going to trade a first round pick, it would have to be a 2018 first rounder at the earliest.
Official draft picks from the next three drafts the Penguins can trade before the deadline are the following:
2016 Draft Choices:
2nd Round Pick (Originally Anaheim’s, acquired in Nick Bonino trade)
3rd Round Pick
4th Round Pick
5th Round Pick
6th Round Pick
2017 Draft Choices:
3rd Round Pick
4th Round Pick
5th Round Pick
6th Round Pick
7th Round Pick
2018 Draft Choices:
1st Round Pick
2nd Round Pick
3rd Round Pick
4th Round Pick
5th Round Pick
6th Round Pick
7th Round Pick
Kessel and Fleury are expendible, like Rambo.
hey guys scuderi ehroff are availble can you imagine they are not good enough for hawks and kings roster yet they are good enough to be pens top 6 defensive unit .this prooves this team is far away to win the cup with the Squad hey have yet Clowns here only drool on adding Offense offense offense. when the real problem is the Defense .for the last 2-3 years
is Gayjoy UFA at the end of this season ?
you guys think i’m nuts saying trade st.blurry and kessel, but you also said i was nuts when i said trade paul martin and brooks orpik and matt niskanen for 1st round picks. yeah it worked out real well keeping those guys around. i understand those guys were free agents and st.blurry and kessel aren’t, but who cares. the pens aren’t winning shit so start moving guys out of here for picks. the pens are an 8th place team at best who are getting eliminated in round 1 if they make it. blow it up for christ sake.
Why would you trade a goaltender who just adjusted to the new 2 year old trap NHL, and is flourishing?
Just do what they do in the NBA, trade picks in 2019.
Alex Pechurskiy
Jakub Kindl on waivers, if anyone is interested.
2.5m this yr and 3m next year-lot of cash for awhole lot of mediocre
still better than having Gayjoy
That would be a foolish cap move unless det is eating salary
They can’t do that on a waiver claim.
Anyone hear any good hot dog cart jokes recently?
yeah your mom was getting laid on it last night
Man – good for her. You go get your’s, Mrs. NPL.
Yo momma’s so fat Sam called her a hotdog cart.
the pens are a team who’s best days are behind them. if they trade picks they are stupid. there is still a 50/50 shot of missing the playoffs regardless of who they get. what they should be doing is moving the players who eat up cap space and make no difference. move kessel and st. blurry. move them for picks and then spend the left over cap money on free agents this summer. it will make no difference to their current situation.
Couldn’t agree more. How could overpaying for a bunch of average players during free agency not make you a better team?
I think it’s weird that yoda would want to move those two guys, considering one has been helped by the new 2 year old “trap” NHL, and the other has suffered. Fleury no longer has to try to defend “off the rush” guys, and Kessel has been stifled. Continues to further perplex anyone trying to figure out if yoda even believes his own bullshit.
Oh he’s definitely clueless enough to believe his own bullshit, that of course is when he remembers it.
Yoda thinks a roster full of Eric Fehrs, Christian Ehrhoffs and a backup goalie will bring home a cup. Great stuff.
It’s also funny how you say the team has a 50/50 chance of making the playoffs and then want to trade away two of their top players. Every post you make becomes more nonsensical.
there is nothing that will bring the pens a cup this year. that’s why i’m saying get rid of the unnecessary cap hits and get some picks.
So your saying there’s a chance
more i read this more i say This Chubby’s trade is a bad trade.but got to make the Droolers happy we got Kessel guys
What is swaying you so much “the more your look at it?” Is it Spaling getting his first goal of the season? Or Harrington continuing to look milquetoast in the AHL?
Don’t forget the player they will get at the end of the first round after the Pens make the playoffs who won’t be in the NHL until 2019-2020 at the earliest if ever.
Yes. Those three “key” assets. For a guy that’s getting put through the ringer on what should amount to a season of, what, 25-30 goals?
Don’t the pens have another 2nd round pick?
Only if they make the playoffs – then Toronto kicks them back their own #2 pick that they moved in the Winnik deal last year, and their #1 moves to TOR.
can posts no longer be deleted? I posted roughly the same info as stanch, so I tried to delete it, but can’t seem to save an empty box.
Just change it to “sam is fat.” Same difference.
If Pap trades a 2018 1st rounder, should be removed immediately from his post.
What if he trades it to Vancouver for McDavid?
Or for a Hot dog cart to make you and kessel happy
That “joke” falls flatter and flatter every time. You french have a sense of humor of a genocide.
No doubt. God forbid he would trade away a player that wouldn’t help the Pens until 2020.
Hard to gauge the culture and needs of a team essentially 3 seasons from now. Most folks feel this years team is not a stanley cup contender so by trading that pick for a rental serves what purpose this season? Absolutely nothing. That pick could be better served as bait for a improvement this off season or next trade deal line when this team is potentially more in line of cup contender status.