Source: Penguins prepared to reignite trade talks surrounding Ian Cole
When Ian Cole’s agent requested permission to seek a trade after Cole was a healthy scratch for a couple games last month, it all but sealed the deal that Cole won’t be resigning in Pittsburgh this summer.
While everyone is putting a good face on for now, Cole expressing a desire to be traded weeks ago out of frustration with his role has still left a bitter taste in the mouth of some decision makers in the organization, sources tell TIOPS.
When Pittsburgh granted Cole’s representatives in late November permission to explore trade opportunities/extension, a trade never got close at the time for a couple reasons:
1. Pittsburgh wasn’t going to get backed into a corner and just move Cole for the sake of moving him because a player was frustrated with being a healthy scratch for a few games. They didn’t want to set a precedent, therefore, Pittsburgh gave the Cole camp a specific asking price they would want from opposing teams (top-9 Forward) that was never close to being met but the sense seems to be Pittsburgh’s high initial asking price would eventually be lowered as time passed, which it has.
2. Pittsburgh’s defensive depth 7-9 in the organization is extremely weak and while the Penguins put an asking price out there they wanted a top-9 forward in exchange for Cole, the Penguins felt they couldn’t move Cole without getting an NHL caliber defenseman back in the deal as a second piece or would have had to make a separate deal to acquire a d-man. The Justin Schultz injury even further complicated moving Cole in the short-term without a legit NHL defenseman coming back.
What the Jamie Oleksiak addition does is change that a bit in that the Penguins are much more comfortable moving Cole now. Cole has also now been bumped to the No. 7 in the rotation, which will put further strain on the situation.
Over the Christmas break and into the New Year, the Penguins are prepared to intensify trade talks surrounding Ian Cole and already have begun the process of re-engaging To read this insider news, subscribe to get “Inside Access”! are particular players that interests the Penguins but Edmonton To read this insider news, subscribe to get “Inside Access”!
Penguins Giddy about Oleksiak
While Jamie Oleksiak was more of a No. 7 defenseman in Dallas, the Penguins see some things where they believe he is a legit No. 3 pairing defenseman and the plan is to put him immediately into the mix as a 3rd pairing defenseman.
Today in practice he worked with Matt Hunwick as the third pairing, Oleksiak playing the right side.
The Penguins have watched a ton of tape on Oleksiak for the past month with Sergei Gonchar who will working very closely with Oleksiak at the forefront. Pittsburgh also plans to use Oleksiak’s booming shot on the second power play unit, another area Gonchar will work a lot with Oleksiak.
Mike Sullivan wasn’t shy about singing the praises of Oleksiak.
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I ignore Sam, but it’s good to see he’s using his multiple accounts paid for by his Mom, to thumbs up his posts. Only that retarded Frog would thumbs up his posts. Well, maybe Maloni or Simply Dusty would as well.
Another game fleury store last. If the for the team. Still waiting for Murray to steal his first game of the year
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Kypreos suggests Penguins might look to deal Kris Letang once the holiday freeze is over.
Correction: Should mention Friedman added to report suggesting Pittsburgh would want a center and a winger in return.
I guess same was once again right pens will miss fleury and fraud Murray will be exposed
Will this be gibsons first victory in Pittsburgh?
Murray, Sucks!!!! Goodnight
Dude, the 2nd goal was junk, but this defense is awful. They need to get some of these passengers out of here. Cole gets scratched for bad play but Letang gets a jersey every night. Double standard Sully.
I know mstartari, I just get frustrated that he’s giving up 3-4 goals on any given night that he plays.
It’s not all his fault. Playing defense is a team effort. The forwards backchecking effort is much to be desired.
It has been a standard routine for him pens need 4 in order to win for Murray on most nights. Playoff time team was scoring and this fraud was. It exposed now the minute team is medicine this clown can’t even steal 1 game for pens. Remember if it wasn’t for fleury last year pens wouldn’t won the cup fleury stole the first 2 series for pens when they didn’t deserve to win
Letang is huge waste of cap space. Nice breakout pass to Dumo. Fcuking Frog.
Maybe Murray didn’t see the guy breaking in with the puck.
Go beat your Reeves drum old man.
Not really but if anyone thinks that Reeves being in the lineup is a problem must think that Cole is part of the defense problem. This team lacks veteran leadership which should start with Crosby and its not there. That was the value of Kunitz, Cullen and Daily. There comes a time where Crosby has to lead and not whine. As for Cole being the problem with the defense omg hanging Chad, Swedish Meatball Matta and Hunwhat are all part of the issue.
What are you talking about Gramps? I defended Cole. Dude go have a conversation with Sam. I can’t because I ignore stupid French Canadians. God the stupidity on this board is amazing. Take your meds and go to bed.
Quit taking things personal I am just commenting in general about people when i go for you snowflake I will let you know.
Snowflake? Great old time reference.
Not that old only started with Clintonites in November.
Harrison released. Gilbert back.
Three straight days of giddiness and I’m going blind.
You can’t afford to be any more blind than you currently are.
That hurt
Third straight giddy day
I do think when Ryan is on our bench and in our lineup, he has an impact on how teams play against us,” Sullivan said. “I think he brings that dimension to our team. He’s a great energy guy. He’s good on the forecheck. He helps us gain momentum. There’s a lot of things you can’t necessary quantify that I think Ryan brings to our team and helps us win.”
Somewhere BoxScore is scratching his schead (zero double post)
That’s wonderful he’s saying all the nice things about a player he’s being forced to dress every night. Maybe he might end up with supporting evidence on everything he supposedly brings nightly… odd that you’d ignore the game that 22 million dollars all ended up in fights while Reaves watched from the bench while rubbing your balls to a PR statement lol
I would have been bitching about all the money spent on Crosby and Letang doing nothing the whole game. That’s ok ZC6687 you keep looking for the rods controlling the players some day you will figure it out.
Lol, you mean the two guys with three Stanley cup rings that have been among the best vs their peers for over a decade? I love you’re ability to make completely fucken asinine remarks on the subject. Reaves is fucken garbage period! Nice guy, good teammate… I don’t have a personal dislike but he can’t play period. I know you’ll continue to try and make a case for a shitty player because he makes blood rush to you’re nether regions but he’s not a good hockey player at all. Funny thing is your boy friend was supposed to make Crosby… Read more »
You think Letang has the track record to use the word era? Really he has IR for it. As for Crosby this is year to lead this is his team and it aint going well. His training wheels for leadership are off K and M are gone and he is failing the task. You did watch the Ducks game tonight? As for why i want someone like Reeves in lineup is because the NHL cant be trusted to clean their own product. It is a well known tactic to get Pittsburgh off their game especially Crosby by extra physical play.… Read more »
I know you have trouble with broad concepts so I’ll spell it out. Letang is not the best of his era, not what I said by any means but he is among the best of the era. In the last decade he’s been arguably one of the top ten Dmen any given year. Use you’re fucken head half wit.
As for Reaves preventing the Pens from getting off their game? You’re dumber than I give you credit for… Crosby has come unglued various nights and the Pens have come
Off their game a lot. That’s why they are on the outside looking in… Reaves does fuck all to improve this team and is a waste of roster space
DePaoli’s hockey coverage makes me giddy.
Only one game, but I liked what I saw of Oleksiak last night
I still get giddy when zero answers one of his own posts.
An answer would necessitate a question… adding a related thought under a recent post only makes sense. How would you prefer the page to operate? You seem to lean towards the incoherent ramblings of a fucken retard and before him you were on board with an obsessive jackass spamming the same 2 or 3 lies. Is this your preference?
i am a man of many people.
i am a man of constant sorrow
I am a man of fixed and unbending principles
I’m giddy about the Oleksiak
Funk Murray, and his glove, take the damn thing off!!!!
Don’t care whose glove hand it was, if the goalie don’t see it they ain’t stopping it
He doesnt seem to see his fair share of glovehand shots
Never said he has a strong glove, it’s just popular for basic fans such as yourself to find something they think they have identified and beat that horse well beyond death.
Murray has a weak glove hand yes, that goal that Panarin scored was a result of a terrific shot, a well placed screen and the Pens defenders inability to deal with they guys in front of the goal… not the glove.
So maybe Sid will wake up?
Oleksiak looking ok so far.
Sweet, now that they’ve mishandled Cole and destroyed any value built in him from far better early play than it was suggested with the scratches.
Sullivan has been terrific since he arrived but this is some of the first real adversity we’ve seen that doesn’t look like it will simply iron out and the reaction to treat Cole the way he did was an error! Sucks Cole will be on his way out like this, guy was solid… dude can actually play.
FTR Storme is trash, id hate to see Chiarelli fix and error by making it ours! Maroon? Guys a poor mans Kunitz at best… bigger but feasted off of McDavid last year. Plus he’s a fucken winger and I think they need to fill a hole at C
Pens brass giddy.
Ruhwedel will be top 6 by playoff time.
D’s source is Dejan Kovacevic.
I don’t mind this trade. We need defensive depth and he’s still a relatively young high draft pick. Archibald wasn’t going to factor into the offense and is much easier to replace on our roster than a defenseman. Still not huge on trading Cole, as his cap hit is minimal and he plays a physical game, but if we can use him in a 3c trade or for forward depth it would help.
Wow from number 7 to 3. No wonder all these defence men liked to come here get overrated leave elsewhere get paid more
that makes no sense at all…”come here to get overrated”
When has a post of his ever actually MADE sense?
Why don’t you just hit the ignore this user in red. I did it for Sam and it’s been a much better experience on here.
It’s fun to see a constant reminder that my dog is smarter than certain people, especially French-Canadians.
He did not say #3.
He said he would be the #3 pairing, as in D5/6
I’d be down for a Maroon for Cole trade.