Draft Day Buzz
The Tampa Bay Lightning and Pittsburgh Penguins are in similar situations.
They both have very promising young goaltenders who are ready to be full-time starters, in Pittsburgh’s case a 22 year old goaltender in Matt Murray who is their No. 1 netminder and won 15 playoff games and a Stanley Cup this spring.
Both teams also have proven veteran netminders who are either the current starting goaltender or were with cap hits pushing $6 million.
Both teams need cap space and avoid losing one of their young goaltenders next season for the expansion draft.
So why are the Lightning sounding like the team that will shed their veteran goaltender and not Pittsburgh?
The Penguins are playing the card in recent days that they want Marc Andre Fleury back and are comfortable with having both goaltenders back, while Steve Yzerman of the Lightning is looking at his goaltending situation much different.
‘It’s better to make a trade now than wait’
Yzerman said if or when a deal with a goalie makes sense, he'd do it. "Not to wait for better cause better might not come along."
— Joe Smith (@TBTimes_JSmith) June 24, 2016
Maybe because there’s a serious trade market for Ben Bishop and not one for Marc Andre Fleury?
The Penguins say there is interest in Fleury but those around the league are saying otherwise in that there is little to no market for him.
If Marc Andre Fleury is a top target of the Calgary Flames, Calgary is doing a very good job of keeping it quiet.
It’s well known Calgary was a runner up for Frederik Andersen.
TSN’s Darren Dreger reported Thursday the Flames are looking “real hard” at Ben Bishop. Pierre LeBrun backed that up in reporting Thursday that Bishop is Calgary’s top target.
If the Flames miss out on Bishop, Bob McKenzie reported on TSN’s Insider trading that Brian Elliott is their likely fall back plan.
When it comes to the likes of McKenzie, Dreger and LeBrun, they are as connected as you could be to the Canadian teams and they don’t miss much.
If the Flames come out of tonight with either Ben Bishop or Brian Elliott, something many are expecting, where does that leave Marc Andre Fleury?
The Ottawa Senators poked around on Fleury but wanted Pittsburgh to take on Craig Anderson as part of a package, NHL sources say.
One rumor floating around in the past 48 hours was that Pittsburgh approached the New York Islanders about a Ni[kolai Kulemin – Fleury swap and were quickly rebuffed.
The Penguins have, as expected, been cautious in what they say publicly due to the great amount of respect they have for Fleury. Those outside of Pittsburgh, though, say Pittsburgh certainly has the appetite to move Fleury to enable them to do a couple other things.
Problem is the Lightning’s willingness to move Ben Bishop might have a great impact on whether the Penguins are able to trade Fleury or not with the one potential landing spot, the Calgary Flames, putting a higher priority on acquiring Ben Bishop than Fleury.
Draft day always has a ton of twists and turns, today might be no different, but it’s crickets right now surrounding Fleury.
— The Penguins have received some calls on the availability of Eric Fehr, one of the teams believed to be Flames. Has two years left on his contract with a $2 million cap hit. Fehr’s been somewhat of a questionable fit for the Penguins system but is very tight with Sidney Crosby off the ice.
— Anaheim’s Cam Fowler will be traded tonight and is most likely headed East. A slew of teams in the East courting him from Buffalo, Montreal, New Jersey, and Philadelphia among them.
— The Penguins with a log jam of left handed defenseman, some talk whether they’ll consider trading Ian Cole to clear some cap space and open up a roster spot for Derrick Pouliot in the top-6. Mike Sullivan, though, became a big fan of Cole and his shot blocking ability as the season progressed……[/hide]
Elliot went to the flames. That means since st bleary is a hall of famer, Elliot must be the best goalie of his generation if the flames preferred him over the miracle performing st of Pgh. Hahahahahah! SUCKERS!
Who do you want to draft with the 5th round pick they got for fleury?hahahahahahaha
The core remains happy!!
Murray will be traded by expansion draft, book it!
Fleury wasnt traded because the Pens over value him.
It’s quite possible that he wasn’t traded because they appropriately value him. Midget!
So you don’t think that Rutherford is being honest about his statements that he wants to hold on to the guy? He’s been saying it since about 10 minutes after the cup was won. Is it not possible that he really wants to hold onto Fleury… Just in case he has another Ward situation? Can you honestly say this is not possible?
Look at you. Asking Maloni to think. Good fucking luck.
Keep believing in the propaganda worm. Nobody wants a meltdown machine smiley face clown.
You’re a fraud.
“Propaganda” – Dapoli and his 1 article a fuxken week know what’s going on but the guys that seem to have new info on a daily basis are spreading propaganda… You’re personal biases are astounding fuckface
Call me when he is traded for a fifth while the Pens retain five million cock smoker
Come on Diego, you know better than that. Nobody wants that train wreck. They are stuck.
3 years ago you said Fleury was going to be traded every other month….Like I said before even a broken clock is right twice a day
Hey worms, go read the prophecy from the article with Murray as the headline. I called it 100%. I said the pens wouldn’t move the Saint unless they ate the majority of his contract because he sucks and nobody wants that stiff. Dk is already spinning the bs that the pens want both guys just as I said. Meanwhile D reports there is ZERO market for the goof. The prophecy has been fulfilled with 100% accuracy!
“Spinning it”… The two guys with credible articles and clearly more legit articles are spinning it but the fucken hack was on point? At what point did your mother realize the milk went hard? Would you have been seven? Eight?
Spinning it is convincing yourself that the hack knows what he’s talking about while the actual journalists don’t! #fuckface2016!
You said they’d get a fifth rounder. Swing and a miss. Tear it down. They’ll never win with this group.
another great prediction by Nostradumbass
So once again Yodummy has failed in a prediction that Fleury would be traded, add that to his March prediction that the Pens would finish 9th or 10th and miss the playoffs and his record for correct predictions is now 1 for 1,293,468,993. Yes that’s right, Yoda has a better a better chance of winning the Powerball than he does making a correct hockey prediction.
I said they were trading him for a 5th round pick and retaining 5 mil of his salary. Or the pens worst fear. They are stuck with the clown.
Was he traded for a fifth round pick? No? Wrong again! Fraud.
Murray is not mentally strong enough to handle a battle for the #1 job. Trade his ass.
Looks like Same rite again clownsss i said 3 years now i said vitalee for darzuk
Did Tampax move Bishop, too?
Stars looking at Bishop.
Bahahahaha… Calgary opts for the cheaper Elliot vs the guys that should pull in more in a trade and somehow that means there is no market for MAF. There is a special kind of stupid that consistently shows up here. Glad you haven’t let down yodirt!
Hey jay, stanch, and zero. Bow down to your prophet. You clowns said the pens were getting a 1st round pick. #fuckfacedyinzerbrainwashedhomers
Please go find that comment you stupid fuck! I’d love to see where any one of us said 1st lol. #liar #cherrypicker #fraud #fuckface
What’s hilarious is you believe that because Calgary tool Elliot that the market is closed lol. What a dumb duck
I think I said he’s worth a first round pick. And I’d hang on to him otherwise. So…. What exactly are you trying to say?
This makes complete sense… Typical yoda cherry picking again!
When did I ever say the Pens were getting a 1st for Fleury??? I’m pretty sure I’m the 1 who has been saying the Pens weren’t moving Fleury this weekend while the “prophet” has been predicting he would be traded for 4 years now.
Hilarious! If the pens want to move the smiley faced Saint, they are going to have to move him for future considerations and retain 5 million per season on his contract. And you morons thought the pens were getting a 1st round pick…hahahahahahahaha! The pens are going to win the cup with Murray again next year and then immediately lose him to Las Vegas. Way to go Rutherford! All hail st bleury!!!! Hahahahahaha
Maybe jimmy Howard case will be that not fleury a 2 time champion
Any chance you noticed that, despite being actively shopped, Vezina Trophy runner-up Ben Bishop, hasn’t been traded yet either?
Except for the huge flaw in your argument, the Pens don’t want to trade Fleury.
Yeah they do! They don’t want to lose Murray to expansion.
Yoda has really studied the expansion issue. You can tell. Fraud.
Who is your mother fucken prophet!
Me because I said every summer one of the kanes makes the headlines this year it’s Evander
Two biggest morons ever.
Gay community in Montreal ar pissed off about Shaw coming to Montreal
Shaw can’t wait to play in front of the hundreds of fans at Le Mausolee Bell
No market for Fleury…shocker…..
Bishop still around too, bub.
Why would we deal him when Zatkoff is the hot goalie? Everyone should want him. He should have started over both of them, so if there is a market for Murray, there certainly should be one for Zatkoff.
You have a point TBJ, Zak did win one more game than Fleury in the playoffs, and in doing so was more clutch than Fleury ever has been.
Habs pick will be the next Markov
You’re an idiot!
Montreal gets a Russian. Hahaha
He’ll probably get along with Sam’s other favorite russian Alex Galchenyuk
Yoda just slammed his head into a wall.
Lol Elliot. Typical Canadian team not interested in seriously competing for the Stanley Cup.
He was chocking with the American team for many years
Elliot… Not Bishop or MAF
Ek hearing Elliot to Flames.
I like how you call him ek almost like you just rolled off of him.
Once again same Is right again. Every year a Kane makes headlines when it’s summer congratulations to Evander Kane you made your self look like a clown once again
Evander Kane is such a fuckface… I imagine he is the off season equivalent of Same and yoda
He is american must be the npl or Stan of the off-season
He’s Canadian. Sam!
Do you remember all these clowns on here drooling for him?
Love the new/old away jersey. Now get a mainly Pittsburgh gold alternate.
Mathews will be a 2.0 version of Kessel. He will be chased out from toronto he also looks like Kessel both weird Americans
What’s his favorite food?
What’s his favorite bar?
Fuck off you yoda
Chased? As in – weirdo Canadians will follow him as he runs away?
I’m guessing just like with Kessel, some team is going to be very happy to take him off the Leafs hands and in a Cup with him while Toronto continues to golf in April.
Then he will be the 2nd Leafs player on their payroll to win a cup since 1967.
And just like that, Montreal still sucks.
Leafs know what it takes to win a cup. Take an American #1 overall.
The best part about tonight’s draft is not only is the #1 pick going to be an American, they’re projecting 12 Americans to go in the 1st round tonight, at least we know 12 organizations are going to be happy with their picks and will be improving their teams tonight.
Technically we got an American for our 1st.
Considering its Toronto, I wasnt convinced Matthews would be the pick.
Wow the comparison Laine to Hull is pretty unrealistic regardless of how good the kid is.
Blues want hall or eberle for shatinkirk
Thanks Sam. We all have twitter too.
Would EDM do #4 for Maatta?
Are you high? Would you do Maatta for the fourth? Right now?
To have Tkachuk on Sid’s leftwing? Sure.
If you were the oilers… Would you trade the fourth overall for Maatta?
Not sure, Prob not.
Depends on what else they are working and what type of sweetner the Pens would consider adding, Edm is desperate for top end defenseman right now and Maata has proven to be capable of playing top pairing minutes. It would be an overpayment for sure but Edm is desperate and will get even more desperate if they strike out on guys like Dumba & Fowler.
Maatta hasn’t established himself as top pairing… Subbans name won’t go away. I don’t think there is anything to the idea that Maatta gets a fourth overall. I mean I guess you could package but it’s not happening straight up and I don’t see it coming close to solving the hole the oilers have on the back end
Who is Tampax drafting this year?
For TBJ, Bobby Mac reproted that Calgary & Columbus have had 4 different conversations so far on the draft floor and Edmonton has been involved in several of the conversations, he thinks something big is being discussed.
Thanks jay. You’d have to imagine the Oilers would be at least open to moving that pick. I wonder if the Pens are involved in anything. Our lack of picks hurts us when you’re talking about picks that high.
Screenshot this article for when Fleury is traded and DePaoli edits the whole thing.
Flames got permission from Tampax to talk to bishop
Yeah, Bennett for Shea Weber and five 1st rounders.
Ek says a lot of chatter of Calgary closing in on a goalie.
Well I guess they aren’t getting one.
Where are the Vanek droolers same once again right about that fraud he won’t live up to his contract
I’d definately go after him
lol where do you get this stuff? its classic
You got a lot of balls calling anybody out when you were the one drooling all over Brad Boyes.
I think the chances of Murray being traded are just as good as Flower being traded.
You boys hearing anything? I’m at work today and it’s pretty crazy. Our founder is here and everyone’s ass is puckered. I’ll be here for most of the draft and it blows.
Anyone check out that article on NHL.com about how Canadian players are slipping in the draft? Great write up.
Fake McKenzie account stated Fleury to Flames.
fake mckenzie is still more credible than real ou812
Depaoli saying nobody has interest in Fleury must mean that he’s a goner tonight. Oh well, thanks for your years of service Flower….you were always one of my favorite players!
Thats because you’re in idiot. Midget sucked balls.
I hope Calgary gets Bishop – they’re going to have to pay him over $7 million after one discount season, so have fun with that.
It’s really not that difficult to understand, GMJR values the depth at that position and has no urgency to move MAF at this point and is willing to start next season with both goalies on the roster. so his asking price is sky high because he’s only interested in moving him if he gets the right deal, this has and will temper teams interest because they know the situation and know they have no leverage when dealing with the Pens. Tampa is in a much worse situation with Stamkos about to hit free agency and no cap space to try… Read more »
Also – there’s really no risk of losing one of these guys for nothing – you literally could trade Murray the day before the expansion draft – SOMEONE is going to want a 23 year old wunderkind that already has a cup ring. It presumably solves a team’s goaltending problem for 12-13 years.
It’s just so funny that so many of the fans just can’t see it and have this notion that if Fleury isn’t traded in the next 24 hours we wasted Murray’s entire career, I really see a lot of similarities between Murray/Fleury and Rask/Thomas when Rask first broke in and tore it up, Boston was patient and took their time(actually won a Cup with Thomas as the starter and Rask as the backup) and allowed things to play themselves out. You would think by now that intelligent fans would realize that knee jerk reactions really workout for the team.
Bishop needs new deal next year, and number thrown out was 8 mill per. Is calgary’s up and comer goalie ready in 1 year? if so Bishop makes sense for them. If he is a couple years away MAF makes sense…. And even though I will get crushed for this, MAF has a cup, Bishop does not. MAF has got his team into the playoffs the last what 10 years? Kind of tired of hearing bishop is the hands down better G.
Yeah, Fleury and Bishop are very different situations. Bishop will demand a big raise and a long term deal. Apparently Calgary has a young tender that they really like and are looking for a transitional tender for a few years. I think Dallas could be a nice fit too.
I was honestly worried that you killed yourself when the buccos went under .500 a week or 2 ago. I have full faith in Nuttting to spend money to right the ship.
Bishop suckss reason he gets so much attention because he is American haven’t you guys learned that yet other players can be twice as better then any American play and as soon. As an American player has decent success they make them look like gods. It’s all American media bullshit. Look how many Americans there is in league an look the percentage of them are all overpaid frauds
As if as soon its American he gets the extra few millions it’s a way to make you dumb bandwagons follow hockey more so you think those Clowns are worthy to watch. Same example was DB as soon as he won the cup he was God
Look at how the Americans carried this team to a Cup not 2 weeks ago.
Coles two million is decent for what he did, Pouliot has not really looked great at all and there are tons of questions around him. I’m not sure if moving Cole for him makes sense sat all. I don’t get why Kunitz name isn’t coming up here. One year left… If there is a market for Fehr here has to be for Kunitz!
Josh Yohe on DKs page has Calgary very interested in MAF… Go figure
its all posturing, GMJR comes away with the 6th overall, heard it here first, lol
I think we’re all just relieved that you haven’t offed yourself.
no stanch, as i try to explain to you all the time, there is life outside this comment board. Still can’t believe pirates signed Goebbert this offseason though, that is the whole reason this season has gone down the tubes. Him and Vogelsong have played a huge part in cutch hitting .230s and Cole and Liriano giving the starting rotation absolutely nothing.
Of course there’s life outside of here – I would be poor if this is all there was. But once your boy Vogelsong faltered and the whole team went down the shitter, I figured you for a goner. NO way this could happen to the best management team in baseball!
Bing Bow Surprise!
I hope it gets interesting!!