Pirates/MLB
Pittsburgh Pirates
TIOPS INSIDE BUZZ
— The Andrew McCutchen situation is starting to reach the stage where you wonder how this story will end.
Bet on a messy divorce this winter.
Prior to this season, the expectation with McCutchen has always been he’d play the 2016 and 2017 seasons out as a Pirate and then be traded following the 2017 season due to the Pirates unwilling to meet his demands and he’d go on with his merry self and land a $200 million contract once he’s a free agent.
How things have turned is just stunning.
The Face of the franchise is now a drag to the ball club.
From his hitting ability, to suspect defense in centerfield, to his terrible body language that is wearing on his teammates, the Pirates just don’t know what to do with him, and some in the organization wonder if McCutchen wants to be in Pittsburgh anymore.
A player who has had a ton of rest with the All-Star break and off-days this month, the only thing the Pirates could come up with is seeing if benching McCutchen for the entire Braves series will lead to a recharged McCutchen moving forward.
“I don’t know what it feels like to have the résumé he has and go through the challenges he’s had this year,” Clint Hurdle told reporters of McCutchen sitting for the series. “What I shared with him is, I want to look you in the eyes and do what I can do just to help you out. Not to make it easier, not to make it softer. I can’t do that. But let’s do this because we have tried just about everything else.”
The Pirates have tried to study a ton of tape with McCutchen on what they’re seeing at the plate to pinpoint and correct some issues and sources say McCutchen has brushed off just about everything and not been receptive.
McCutchen will return to the starting lineup Friday night. Does Hurdle have it in him yet to remove him from the No. 3 spot? It’s getting close to that point.
Locke Frustrated with Rotation
Andrew McCutchen’s whining about the umpires has come under scrutiny. It doesn’t get any better than Jeff Locke’s comments following Wednesday night’s loss.
“It’s frustrating, the inconsistent part of things,” Locke said via the Tribune-Review. “We tried to keep some guys on five-day routines with all the rotation changes and everything. One guy isn’t ever here anymore, so what was it really all for. You never know when you’re going to pitch, then you get the ball and get an opportunity tonight…..I threw more pitches warming up in the bullpen tonight than I did in games the last two weeks.”
At least Locke’s a good quote.
August Trade Market to involve McCutchen?
— Team sources say the Pirates intend To read this insider news, subscribe to get “Inside Access”!
I heard pokemon go is helping Americans to end their obesity trend. But hasn’t work well for npl since the games launch he has gained 20 more pounds because he is using the game to find new restaurants to go and eat
Crosby showed up unannounced at fan’s house to sign jersey.
Apparently Fleury will do the same he will show up at Yoda’s house with a jersey and give him and if Yoda tells him you suckk he will look at him and say I can’t hear you because I have 2 Stanley cup rings plugged in my ears. Just like Roy did to his fellow American JR many years ago.
He’s gonna sign Yodas Giorgio Tsoukalos underroos
Man the Stanley Cup has been in quebec more then it has been in the entire U.S lately with multiple cup parades. It’s like every year some French guy or some Canadian brings the cup here while in Pittsburgh if pens don’t win hard to see another team player bring the cup in Pittsburgh.
Even Kessel didn’t celebrate in Pittsburgh and end up in Toronto
Well… Kessel isn’t from Pittsburgh retard
Lol, two… Two guys played and the third was Dupuis, there was literally three times as many US born players on the team that were an impact.
I mean, i would cite entire games when every goal was scored by an american or a swede, and sam would counter with “yeah, but a canadian had the game winner assist!” He’s a moron.
Where’s Izzy?
Murray was average. The team playing in front of him made the difference.
Just like DB was with the pens biggest fraud to win jack Adams award
Yeah, just like that. What a stooge.
One thing is certain, Sam gets it.
murray’s numbers were above average and winning the cup is above average. either way, st.bleury’s playoff numbers are far below average and even an average murray is better than the choke artist of all time.
He let in some sofffff goals. It was all about the team in front of him.
Murray let in goals you’d have crucified MAF for. That’s why you’re a fraud that thinks Men In Black was based on a true story.
“Mars attacks”? Yoda was there, seen it with his own imagination!
super pumped to watch st.bleury suit up for canada and lead them to the world cup! #1stballothalloffamer!
Alienzzzz
I’m pumped for the next star trek convention. It’ll be cool to chat with guys who have seen real aliens and have been to other planets. Imagine the stories they have!
“I love Pittsburgh, and the Penguins are my team; I want to stay with them for the rest of my career,” Fleury said. “I had some good conversations with management after the season. Nothing is written in stone. I want to come to camp ready to win my job back. I have to get back to the same level of play and help the team, win games.”
inB4 yodirt adds “something, something MAF back up, something 7 million, something, I loooove dicks, something, something, alien fucked my mom once”.
I can’t wait for the fraudulant opinion, I could use a good laugh this afternoon.
here is the fact, not opinion. murray won the stanley cup while st.bleury was on the bench. the pens tried to give the patron saint his job back in game 5 and he choked. murray went back in for game 6 and then went on to win the cup. murray is better and cheaper. those are the facts.
all hail st.bleury! your patron saint!
The sad truth to this statement is Fluery has all the power in the world to stick it to the pens. I dont think he will let it play out that way, but he has a full no movement clause that only he can waive, just wait til the expansion draft and Pens have to protect him…. Like I said doubt that is how it goes down, but possible right?
While I think MAF holds a lot of the cards because of the NMC and the organizations respect for him, at the end of the day the team still holds the ultimate trump card and that’s playing time. I felt all along that he would be ok with having and opportunity to win the job back but I can’t see him being ok with not playing, if it gets to the point where the organization is ready to make Murray the full-time starter I don’t think they’ll have an problem convincing MAF to move on to a place where he’ll… Read more »
Agreed on all counts
Respectfully disagree, and again situation will get worked out, but MAF holds the trump to if he wants to be here. All he has to do is smile, take his 20 starts this year, collect a check for 1 year and when the pens start proposing trade teams, “no thank you.” Until the expansion draft. Sure, if murray isnt taken for some reason then they can keep him on the bench, but pretty sure MAF and his agent are aware Murray is as good as gone if MAF is a Penguin at the end of the year……….again not saying it… Read more »
you guys are all effing morons. the pens gave him his job back in game 5 vs the lighting and he choked his job away again. you get a kid who won the cup, and you still want the choker in there. unfuckinbelievable!
There its… “something something game 5… I refuse to acknowledge all the missed time off due to a concussion, this is a black and white issue because alienz visit my imaginations”
I think its very far fetched, MAF is a competitor, he is not gonna be happy watching 62 games so if Murray shows that last year was not just a hot run and he is ready to be the man full time then MAF will want to go somewhere he will get the time
if st.bleury is so good why couldn’t the pens trade him at the draft? nobody wants him, that’s why.
Must be it… there was zero chance that the boss really didnt shop him… or it was alienz
not true, all NHL outlets reported your cult god couldn’t be moved because he suuuuuuucks.
wont lie I agree its far fetched, but if say edmonton is the only team that wants him and he wont go there, all he has to do it wait it out…. Its 100% in his court to easily put the screws to the pens. Think of it this way as of now, MAF is the starting goaltender for 2017. He is under contract, has a full no movement clause and the guy standing in his way is a lock to be selected in the expansion draft if not protected. Ballsy move on his part, unlikely sure, but not out… Read more »
Pirates suck.
A Rod to play his final game next Friday. Finally that fraud is retiring. I guess he finally had enough with stealing paychecks week after week from the fans
I am assuming and preparing malkin’s excuse for this year upcoming slump he is still injured
So wait, being 1 of the most productive players to ever play the game equates to being a fraud and stealing paychecks? It’s amazing how easy you make being completely clueless look.
Well I’m judging like Stan does about Crosby
You’re an idiot.
Who the frick is Partch?
40.50 ERA not too shabby.
Happy Birthday Sid!
#FatLivesMatter
#FatDemocrats15$MinimumWage
At least they have Bastardo moving forward. I knew the Walker trade was going to pay off the second NPL endorsed it.
Sorry i let you down this time. Im normally right so, please dont lose faith in me.
$400 mil to Iran.
A week late on that news
Yeah. That’s usually your job.
Caminero to Seattle
Interesting little insight on DK’s site today, “The Pirates wanted Hutchinson, but one of Ramirez or McGuire wasn’t going to get him. So Liriano and the second prospect were added, the latter happening at Toronto’s insistence because of Liriano’s 13M salary. That’s the order in which it happened, per this source, rather than setting out to dump Liriano.” the source was from way on high. So it appears that in the end the move wasn’t a salary dump at all and they didn’t give up 2 top prospect to dump Liriano’s salary. They gave up Liriano & a prospect to… Read more »
Right. The source was from way on high! Maybe the source was way high when he told the story. Wasn’t a salary dump at all! It’s a different narrative on par with yoda’s alien ramblings. I’ll give the Pirates this much credit – they do a hell of a job with damage control. That’s obviously mitigated by the fact that there’s no shortage of moonbats willing to buy this bullshit.
Not buying it at all. You want to show me its not a salary dump? SIgn Freese or Joyce to an extension this week, show me the money is going back in to the team. SInce 2007 I have always felt Huntington did things the right way. Dont get me wrong, none of these trades are an excuse to have just lost 5 of the last 6 to the teams we just lost too, they should be in the WC slot right now, but trade showed me we will not dfa locke or jaso, and that is why this team… Read more »
I don’t even have a problem with them dumping the salary, per se. I mean, i think it’s a quick hook for a guy that’s traditionally pitched pretty well for you, after 2/3 of a season to deem him no longer fit going forward. I know he’s struggling, but it’s not like he’s 39 and clearly done. It’s the “let’s get rid of his salary at all costs, even if it costs us some assets that we could use in another manner to actually benefit the team” that’s problematic to me. And yeah – you’re right – it’s not an… Read more »
Did hell just freeze over? lol…. I would simplify by saying, what they did was not the problem.. what they showed about how they are run is the problem. Look, Nutting did not take over as majority owner until 2006. It was Mcclatchy that made the money moves and ran the team in to the ground. Was always said Nutting was fine with increase in payroll, but huntington wanted to do it his way… this moves put all that into question for the first time since this group took over… at least for me
I don’t mind them dumping his salary because it sounds like they don’t think he’s fixable. Hitters finally realize if you don’t swing he’ll just create his own jams. But I do take issue with them needing to throw a prospect in to do it. If they use that money saved in a productive way I’ll gladly admit I was wrong. Wishful thinking, though.
That’s still them dropping salary in a way. They wanted to move Liriano and Toronto insisted McGuire needed thrown in.
They want Canadian market to be strong so fans follow more baseball . Just like in NHL they want American teams to be strong so fans follow hockey. It’s called business
Yeah. That untapped Canadian baseball market. Which is smaller than the Dominican and Cuban market. Fucking moron
I’m talking about MLB not international you clown
It sure worked out well in Montreal.
We don’t need that boring pajama party sport. Sitting on our asss for 4 hours and eat hot dogs and get fat.no wonder there is more Americans that are fat then Canadians
I guess no athletes can compete with curlers.
I’d love to see you try to hit a fastball!
What market for mlb do you think exists in Canada. Especially outside of Toronto you rube.
Uh oh! More fake trades it looks like!
Kang sucks! Scared of contact unless it’s a Chicago hooker.
Jaso sucks! Cut that damn hair you lazy hippie!
Gerardo (Rico Suave) to sing national anthem at Pens’ home opener!
how do you post links and pictures on this effing board?
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m479w3yGmv1ql7ggvo4_400.gif
TOOPS – The Outsider On Pittsburgh Sports. Get daily, but sometimes weekly, or monthly Outside Buzz on your favorite Pittsburgh sports teams that you actually hate .
Hey Jeff, if you want to stay in the rotation maybe you shouldn’t get lit up by baseball’s worst offense.
@zerocool, you are a brainwashed minion slave. you state there is no evidence of UFO’s and you insult ancient aliens. have you ever watched the show?
I’m sure he’s very concerned with the board moron telling him he’s brainwashed.
“E.T is a documentary”-yogurt
This was comedic gold, tbj.
I’m laughing my ass off here… Well done
you are brainwashed too. the pens have you believing that st.bleury is the greatest goalie in the history of the NHL.
You’re a fraud.
Ya, I have which is exactly why I know it’s fucking bullshit. It’s simply a vehicle for Daniken to sell books using Stichens ideas. It’s called pseudoscience you pseudo-intellectual. It’s no shock that you’d be so easily duped by a show that pushes an idea so easily debunked lol.
Also, just to point out how wrong you are again… There is mountains of evidence of UFOs… By definition they are Unidentified Flying Objects… Unidentified being key. You think it means extra-terrestrial, it doesn’t. You’re stupid lol
so in other words, if the paid government scientists tells you the science is real its real, and if the paid government scientists don’t approve its fake? you are the definition of a brainwashed slave who loves his master. you are a happy cog in the man’s wheel. you are a sucker to the 100th degree! hahahahaha! you are such a sucker that you believe st.bleury is the pens best goalie of all time and a playoff hero. you honestly believe that. hahahahaha!
“Paid government scientist” because there is no independent research in places like colleges etc or ameture astronomers which also doesn’t mean what you think it does you fucken idiot.
You are literally to uneducated on virtually every subject you have attempted to draw into this argument. As usual you prove yourself to be more incompetent in matters that are not hockey than you do speaking of the game. It’s a bad place to be when hockey seems to be your strong point and we all know you’re a fucken idiot on that subject as well.
It’s really cute you think SETI is a government organization tho 😉
McCutchen’s wife reported that due to being benched, McCutchen will go balls deep on her this weekend.
I felt almost from Day 1 of the 2016 season that McCutchen has an eye on the future and has been trying to bolster his power numbers in an attempt to drive his price tag even higher. I’m by no mean an expert on the mechanics of a baseball swing by a friend who has coached at the college level and done some minor league scouting told me the other day that he’s noticed a hitch in Cutch’s swing where his dipping his shoulder, he went on to tell me that this is consistent in players trying to change the… Read more »
4 consecutive Top 5 finishes in the NL MVP voting, 4 straight Silver Sluggers – but McCutchen changed his approach this year to drive up his price? I’ll say no.
He’s been trying to hit homeruns since spring training. He looks miserable. He may be dying alive.
What I would do is try to package Cutch with Glasnow and Taillon – just get rid of that salary for fuck’s sake.
Still upset over 2 guys that may never amount to anything.
yoda and sam?
You know what? It doesn’t matter if they’ll amount to anything. I’m upset they were moved to save money to a team that’s notoriously cheap, rather than package for a player that could help them. What they ultimately end up being is irrelevant.
It may be irrelevant to you but it’s very relevant to the team that is acquiring them. I know the fans and the media love to drool over prospect rankings but I’m pretty confident that there isn’t a GM in the league that values the opinion of an arbitrary observer who has most likely never even seen the prospect play over the opinion of his scouts who not only have watched countless hours of film but have seen them play in person many times. I can only assume that the GM who sits in the scouting meetings and tells his… Read more »
What you’re ultimately telling me is that their farm system is junk outside from 2 or 3 at the top, considering where these guys were ranked by independent sources who HAVE seen them play. Sounds like NH has some work to do, since their top 10 prospects equate relatively to other teams’ Top 30.
I’m not telling you anything about the prospects themselves because I have seen very few of them actually play and the ones I have seen play I haven’t seen enough of to form an educated opinion on. What I am saying is that teams have their own scouting departments and are going to trust that assessment of a player over an outsiders opinion of that player. I’m also saying that just because Baseball America says McGuire is a top prospect it doesn’t mean that all/some/any teams also value him as a top prospect, in short just because some prospect ranking… Read more »
Yes. Clearly each team has their own scouts, and their own opinions, and clearly those opinions are based on varying degrees of exposure to said prospect. You’re not breaking any ground here. But if your argument is that, while these two were tabbed as “top prospects” by varying outlets, including Baseball America, yet there are no other teams in the league that would agree with that, and thus no outlet to move them in a trade that would benefit the on-field product, making this the wisest of decisions to help the off-field finances, you’re delusional at best, and incompetent at… Read more »
My argument is that we have no clue what their value was around the league hence we have no way of knowing what they could have brought that may or may not have helped the on-field product. Personally I think Ramirez could have been a piece used in a package that could have netted them something of value and I think it was a mistake to include him in the salary dump, I’d be shocked if McGuire would have benefited another deal much unless they found someone who was infatuated with the fact that he’s a former 1st round draft… Read more »
I’m not sure anyone is freaking out – what people are doing is rightly realizing that, for years, this idiot management team has preached hoarding prospects in order ensure the future – moving prospects for immediate help was taboo – it’s wasn’t the pirate way. That all sounds swell until you realize that, they’re pretty cool with moving prospects in order save some money – helping the team, not so much. Maybe that makes more sense to you.