Penguins/NHL
The Pittsburgh Penguins have agreed to a trade to send [hide] Phil Kessel to the Arizona Coyotes. A trade call is pending.
For Phil Kessel this is a major win. Kessel’s representation at Newport Sports for weeks has been trying to maneuver a trade to Arizona or Vegas and after blocking the trade to Minnesota earlier this month, they win the day in getting a trade to Arizona.
The Penguins, though, do okay in a situation where Kessel backed them into a corner.
The primary player coming to Pittsburgh in return is center/LW Alex Galchenyuk, a player the Penguins have tried to acquire at various points over the last two years, most notably last June prior to the draft.
Galchenyuk, 25, has one year remaining with a $4.9 million cap hit. He had 19 goals and 22 assists in 79 games last season for Arizona. Galchenyuk is what he is, a fast, versatile forward with size that coaches always think there’s more to give, but Pittsburgh is getting a top-9 forward with 20 goal ability which continues to fit the mold with recent acquisitions of Jared McCann, Nick Blugstad and Dominik Kahun. Pittsburgh will also receive defenseman Pierre-Oliver Joseph, the 23rd overall pick in the 2017 draft.
Pittsburgh creates $1.9 million in cap space with the trade, giving them around $5.1 million in cap space.
From Pittsburgh’s end, are they a better hockey club with this trade?
Let’s not go that far, they’re not by any means. The downside of the trade is the Penguins took 75-85 points out of their lineup for a lesser offensive forward that like Kessel also struggles in his own end and while the Penguins are confident Galchenyuk won’t be a problem in the room, Galchenyuk has had questions in the past with his off-ice work habits and has long frustrated coach with a lack of incentive to play all three zones.
When you put this deal, though, up against the two versions of the blocked Minnesota trade, this is a much better trade for Pittsburgh because the four years left on Jason Zucker’s contract was too much of a gamble, even if Zucker is a much better 200-ft player than Galchenyuk.
With the inclusion of Pierre-Oliver Joseph in the deal, Pittsburgh gets some potential long-term protection as scouts feel Joseph with his strong skating ability and puck moving presence has a good chance of being a serviceable NHL player within a couple years.
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Brandon Tanev meh
Did we crash yet?
Its a bummer the Pens had to give up their 2020 2nd round pick just to get rid of Fleury. Now Montreal has 2 second rounders and the Pens might not be able to contend with them.
Panarin might stay with the jackets.8 years 96m has been offered Npl you can slowly stop drooling now
Same is going to to kill himself after the Pens sign Tyler Ennis
That would be great.
I’d pay to see it
But but but npls favorite player Tyler peniss signed with the senators
Perry to Dallas
I would have given him a shot at $1.5.
But Same assured us he would be a penguin?
Sam(e) has an inside source who is very close to Bettman. Can’t you tell?
1.5 m
I’m pickle Rick
Pappy in bed dreaming for the Pens.
Talbot to Calgary.
Duchene To nashville
Zuc to Minn ?
Pavelski to Dallas
Smith to Edmonton
Hilarious, this cities team is an ongoing joke
Bob is going to FLA. Bread Man to Isles. Boyle to Isles too.
Well it’s a good thing the Islanders still suck…: as a contender, no changes, the Pens should easily beat NYI… NJ has no new threats… right dusty
Correct. Pittsburgh is seen as a bigger contender than the Islanders next year. Tampa, Boston, Toronto, Washington, Pittsburgh are the top 5 in the east. See vegas odds.
Well that explains Dustin’s hockey knowledge. If Vegas says it it must be true. Tampa must be happy with the cup they were predicted to win. The Warriors too.
Your buddy says as they are today, the Pens are not a contender and sit behind the islanders on the contender list. The experts disagree. Nobody said crown people based off of vegas. Keep reaching.
As of today, all those teams got better, the Penguins did not. I agree the Islanders and the Rangers are in a much better position then the Penguins once those signings are made. Anyone who uses a betting line for their sports info is an idiot. Sorry Sam(e) Jr.
Ya, the guys who control billions of dollars determining who is better is a terrible tool to use. Using the opinions of Stan, Zero, Yoda, Mstari is a much better tool. Give me a break.
It is called common sense, most sports journalists do not even follow the vegas odds. It is for gambling addicts who are looking to make a fast dollar.
These are the same people who ran odds on the ending of Game of Thrones.
The guys who control billions love Sullivan and just traded a guy you cried over claiming the teams players are shitty so you don’t wanna watch anymore…. what a fucken sam level loser lol
Dusty the leader so far today for stupid takes. Don’t worry Sam is lurking.
Glad to be paired with that group. Yoda is in your group. That is the dummy group. Get it right Dusty!
Most recent odds Pens are in 10th you fucken moron….
http://www.vegasinsider.com/nhl/odds/futures/
Amazing trade by the habs today hope GMJR took notes
A 2nd and 7th round pick! Wahoooooooo!!!!!!!!!!! Game. Fuckling. Changer. Wow.
That’s what Montreal lacked, with Shaw gone they are contenders….
The village idiot shows up.
Apparently habs will make the playoffs this year and not the Oilers and the penguins
Habs fan is impressed by draft picks… not cups
Troll!
I’d love for the Pens to round out the top 9 by signing Brandon Tanev. Could be a good fit on Malkin’s left wing playing the Hagelin role but with more scoring ability. Dzingel would be another good addition.
Here is npl for once in his life trying to bring hockey conversation on this board. And yet still looks like an idiot
My bad. I should have said Id like another French Canadian to make this team even softer and easier to player against.
Oilers close to sign perry
Keep drooling Sam(e)
Same is drooling all over his mom’s keyboard
Matt Hunwick, Jack Johnson …what beauty will GMJR bring in this summer.
I’m going with Del Zotto, Lovejoy or Engelland.
Can he bring back orpig
Wahhhhh
I remember when people pissed and moaned about losing James Neal’s points for Hornqvist.
I remember also about orpig and gonchar when they were gone average bandwagon fans were sad here
don’t forget 1st liners TK and Sheary.
Those were gaydoggs and zerotools hero’s
Both were servicable contracts who did a job many struggled to last year. You’re just too fucken stupid to admit that FACT!
Below average bandwagon fans cried when the Pens traded away Perron for Hagelin, didnt sign St. Louis over Kessel, and fired Johnston for Sully. 24 months later, 2 Stanley Cups.
He’s talking to you Dusty.
Revisionist history…. most seen it was time to move away from Orpik. He started to show ugly holes in his decision making, much like fucken Letang you motherfucken hypocrite, and he wanted too much money. Most were ready to move on… you on the other hand haven’t shut the fuckk up about him since he left.
Gonchar? Ya… a lot wanted to keep him at a significantly reduced rate. It probably would have been best, for both parties, had he stayed for less money in a reduced role. Still for what he was asking most were good with him walking.
Hornqvist vs Neal wasn’t a 50% drop off and his game was all about being that net front, uber physical pest.
They traded Kessel for a less productive Kessel…
Neal was a point per game player here. They traded him for Hornqvist (who had 50 points at the time).
Do you want to borrow my calculator for the % drop off lol? Neal hit a PPG in one year, was just shy the year he was traded but still finished with 2 more points than Hornqvist who had 53. We also knew Neals game was greatly impacted by Malkins, it was assumed Hornqvist could potentially see a similar boost. Regardless we were moving a soft as a grape moron with a great shot for a hard as fuck to play against pest who consistently his 20 and 50 with nothing up the middle. The character of those two factored… Read more »
wish it would have been letang and malkin
I have no problem with this trade. I love Kessel, he did what he was brought in here to do and they won two cups. All teams must shed some players when chemistry gets stagnant and bad habits form. They shed some cap space, got younger and grabbed a young dman in the process. This is the way sports works. Someone will always have to take the fall. If GMJR spends this new money wisely they may prolong the Crosby/Malkin a bit longer. Maybe now they will revamp their ever predictable PP.
Got hosed.
This team becomes more unlikeable by the day. Can’t wait for them to trade Malkin and then watch all the empty seats that follow.
That won’t matter to you since you don’t root for the team, just the players.
Dustin, just wait for the all star game to watch hockey.
Why would I only root for results of a team and not also root for individuals that I like better than others? Why would I like every player that plays for Pittsburgh and the inverse, hate every player that does not? It’s ok to hate players and coaches of your own team. Only 10 year olds root for a shield.
Yep that’s correct. Just curious why you would care about the team because you said you only care about the players? I thought maybe you changed. It’s your logic not mine. I didn’t know you could only be 10 years old to root for the team. I guess only you and Sam and Yoda root for players and not the team. It’s obvious by the way the three of you post on here.
Technically it’s the 10 year olds that choose teams based on a player! They often bounce around too… Hell it was an 8 year old me that became a Penguin fan because of Mario. That developed and I stuck around for the shield!
Yes it’s great having players that people pay to see but you’re throwing in a towel here it seems.
They have 3-4 years realistically with Sid at the height of his game. They are NOT a contender at the moment but it’s also unlikely this is what the team looks like October 5th
Of course they are a contender. Look at who made the final 4. Tampa, Washington and Toronto with uber amounts of talent and speed stayed home. I’d rather go to battle with their lineups, but to say we’re not a contender is false.
Right now? No they are not outside of a hot streak at the right time. They have a roster that could surprise but I’m looking at the teams you just named, all far better than the team that just beat the Pens in four and the Pens are markedly worse at this point than they were in game 4 of the Islanders series.
They should make the playoffs but without some luck, as currently built, they do not look like a serious contender. They need to make another move or two before I’d say that
Whaaaaa
This place is littered with “fans” that are here for Crosby. It will look significantly different when Sid retires
Crosby doesn’t even crack my top 5 for favorite Pens. He’s their beat player by far, but behind Malkin, Kessel, Guentzel, Fleury and Schultz. Always was a big Hagelin fan also.
When Crosby is gone, the organization needs to sell out to get the next superstar. Nobody is going to want to watch a team that doesn’t play a high powered offensive game that relies upon skill….even if it wins.
They will, because they are fans. Apparently you aren’t. Just because the team doesn’t have a player got have a man crush on doesn’t mean no one will watch them.
Many of us watched and hoped for Fata, Koltsov, and a myriad of other bad players in hopes they’d find something… for years. That’s what being a fan means.
Building go empty when it feels as if there is no commitment to fixing the roster, in that period of bankruptcy that’s how it felt. They should be in far better shape next time they have to rebuild
He has no clue. Don’t waste your time with reason. It’s simply a waste of time. Get it? Simply.
Can’t wait. Not for Sid to retire but for the three idiots go away. They know who they are.
71 isn’t going anywhere unless he wants too
Per Josh Yohe: Kessel requested a trade several times last season. Kept it quite but had destinations in mind.
They traded him because he asked for it lmmfao. Good job sam
Apparently Phil had a conference call and said it was not factual. Love the nuh-ahhh type BS.
Interesting
So Bomboullie says Phil doesn’t agree… regardless team was clearly not on the same page. It’s addition by subtraction at best. A guy that would have been a distraction at this point. Still they give up 40 points…
The potential to hurt the team big time exists
When majority of chubbys points come from pp any clown can replace him and get points. So don’t worry penguins won’t miss him
My god you’re a fucken moron of the highest caliber… yes sam they won’t miss a 80-90 point guy at all… we can just create another one like all those that existed on the wing before him right, dumb fucken asshoIe
Phil Kessel: 34% of his career points on the PP
Kris Letang: 40% trade his stupidass for someone that actually has the brains to play defence and the points will come, like Letang he can rely on the PP to look good offensively
Crosby: 36% of his career points on the PP
Trade Galchenyuk and Letang. Sign Panarin.
Walls work
DemocRATS don’t
Trotman defends
Letang doesnt
Montreal rocks
Florida Suckss
Sams mom Works, Sam doesn’t
Great opinion piece on Galchenyk in Montreal
https://amp.reddit.com/r/Habs/comments/78tlk4/conor_mckenna_this_alex_galchenyuk_rehab_story/
D can you put us a countdown clock when this site will crash on July first
Try that in English you fucken moron
What a blockbuster deal I’m sure players and gms are laughing about this trade. One locker room cancer gets traded to another.
Actually the team reportedly quite loved Kessel, meaning by default they think you’re a bigger cuntt than your mother is known to be
The team. Lol. Name me one coach loved coaching him. And when u say team loved him. Can be because they saw him as a clown in the locker room. Clearly they did not all liked playing with him as we saw several events on the ice having issues with some other players.
I’m talking about the guys that he played with you moron… the team… the 19 guys that dressed nightly! Fuckk you’re dumb
Murray injured yet ?
Fun fact: Galchenyk has played for shit teams his entire career… has better career possession numbers than Perry lol. Sam the drooling assholee wanted Perry
Remember that as soon as seen the comments
I mean not that I really think he’s a good option but the sammich was making a case for Perry over Malkin a couple days back and was defending horrible career possession to make his case lol
What the hell is a Dane Birks btw ? 🙂
Leave it to Sam to gloat about the team getting worse for next season… what a fucken loser
Curious if Galchenyk was brought it to move Bjugstad to the wing permanently, with his lack of mobility comparably it makes sense.
Either that or it’s a domino
Cant wait for Sam’s head to explode when he finds out POJ is black.
One thing to think about is has been echoed some on here. Will Sully like and play this guy or will Sully continue to push against Malkin.
He never pushed against Malkin, he tried to create balance in the line up.
Galchenyk plays C, Bjugstad moves to wing and plays where he fits in the roster.
Unless more moves are coming
Our Russian is next
Because galchenyuk wants play 1C or 2C
Yes they will move the superstar to accommodate Galchenyk… if it’s an issue he will be moved July 1st
You guys think pens will get bum james Neal too just to make our Russian happy
Now all this hot dogs that the penguin bought them what will happen are they part of the trade too if so throw in npl and his hot dog cart in that deal too and call the trade a steal lol
Same was once again right when he said chubby won’t finish his contract with penguins and be on a 3rd team with that contract. Suckk it droolers while you can
Sam said it would happen years ago and that the Pens would never win a Cup with Kessel.
Meh, you shit all over him the moment he landed and through two cup championships… he wins period
If he was that good why didn’t he stay through the contract. Let me make the excuse for you it was a salary dump and not the fact he is a locker room cancer. Chubby is every average bandwagon super star player. Yet he is the worst player that every coach wants him in his team tell me 1 coach that liked kessel on his team 1. Coach
Picked up a guy who nearly netted 20 goals to play 3C and a first round prospect… also shaved 1.9
Oddly a lot of other pages I follow think the Pens came out on top.
I am concerned about the lack of offense in the deal and Galchenyk comes with similar issues but maybe the prospect allows the Pens to dumb another major issue… stupid fucken Letang
Exactly
Galchenyuk is a lazy American /russian player that drinks a lot He is not a team player and beats his GF. Nice job pens nice job
Did I also forgot to mention He also does drugs
He did in MTL but you fuckers are so difficult I’m surprised he didn’t hang himself
Your Mom does drugs and dudes because of you.
You wanted him gone…
Besides it’s the 2017 pick that made the deal you dumbfuck
Yeah replacing a cancer in the locker room with another amazing we are back to square one
I wish someone would beat you.
His boyfriend beats him
Who Dusty?
I know you are a bandwagon and turns off his TV. Mid way the game. What I said is the truth penguins traded a locker room cancer for another. Trust me he wont be a penguin for long
Bye bye Malkin he is next
Hopefully would rather see that in consistent inigma Malkin go instead of kessel..
One lazy player for another lazy
I’m surprised you haven’t busted a nut all over your phone douche bag. You’ve been calling for this trade since he arrived, congrats, 4 years and you’re finally right.
Big D prospect back, bye Letang
Get it right ZC 4 years and 2 cups not a bad damn ratio at all.
This doesn’t help Sid or Geno in their”win now” window. I’m really disappointed in our gm.
The window is shut.
Yup the way your TV is always shut once they are down 2-0
Your mom’s vagina is never shut.
It was becoming clear the team overall was ready to move on. Hopefully the prospect works out but they got a lot worse today
I like Kessel but the damage was done. At least they make Malkin happy by getting Galchenyuk. Need to mend fences with him.
Galchenyk is US born… just a name homie. One year left in the contract tho. Still it would be weird for a throw away year
Yes I know but acts more Russian than American.
Agreed he drinks and beats his gf like a Russian. Oh wait Americans do that to. Got to love his mix. Super lazy
Thanks D, I already told all the boys on here, but by all means take the credit.
Gives us another 2 million in cap space.
Supposedly Alex Galchenyuk is apart of the deal and their 1st round pick in 2017 Pierre Oliver Joseph.