Daily Five
*Rumblings, Musings, Opinions*
1. A longer term deal between the Penguins and Brian Dumoulin beyond two years does not look feasible but the Penguins will live with a one or two year deal from arbitration and take another run at signing Dumoulin long-term next summer.
Dumoulin’s hearing is July 24. He qualifies to be an unrestricted free agent on July 1, 2019.
Despite disappointment that a long-term extension is looking bleak, the Penguins still regard Dumoulin as a big part of their future.
This is another reason, though, why Olli Maatta’s contract is still highly valued by the organization because of their being certainty with five years left on the contract.
Maatta is far from being unavailable but the Penguins have not been To read this insider news, subscribe to get “Inside Access”!
2. One reason there’s no jump from the Penguins in moving one of the top-5 d-men for a center? The Penguins brass and others around the league believe this could be one of the best, if not the best blueline in the Eastern Conference.
Is having a healthy Kris Letang (which is always up in the air) getting overlooked of how good the Penguins blueline could be in 17/18?
One Eastern Conference scout tells me the Penguins projected blueline has the chance to be “scary good” and the best group in the East.
“I think Letang’s going to come back better than ever,” the scout said of Letang. ” When he’s out there, you have a trickle-down effect in slotting Schultz and Maatta where they should be. His presence makes them and others that much better. A lot of their key guys are still young enough where they’re projecting upwards. Everyone thinks offense [hide] with Pittsburgh but they could have the best defense [in the Eastern Conference].”
Penguins Depth Chart
Dumoulin – Letang
Cole – Schultz
Maatta – Hunwick
Pouliot – Ruhwedel
Current Depth Charts of the remaining seven Eastern Conference playoff teams from 2017 postseason:
OTT: Fredrik Claesson-Erik Karlsson | Dion Phaneuf-Cody Ceci | Thomas Chabot-Chris Wideman
WSH: Dmitri Orlov-Matt Niskanen | Christian Dipos-John Carlson | Brooks Orpik-Madison Bowey
NYR: Ryan McDonagh-Kevin Shattenkirk | Brady Skjei-Brenden Smith | Marc Staal-Nick Holden
CLB: Zach Werenski-Seth Jones | Jack Johnson-David Savard | Markus Nutivaara-Ryan Murray
MTL: Karl Alzner-Shea Weber | Jordie Benn-Jeff Petry | Brandon Davidson-David Schlemko
BOS: Zdeno Chara-Charlie McAvoy | Torey Krug-Adam MCQuaid | Brandon Carlo-Kevan Miller
TOR: Jake Gardiner-Nikita Zaitsev | Ron Hainsey-Morgan Reilly | Martin Marincin-Connor Carrick
3. Mark Recchi played a big role in pushing for the Penguins to hire Mike Sullivan as Wilkes Barre coach in the summer of 2015. The two are very close and when Tocchet informed the Penguins last Wednesday he had entered into negotiations with the Coyotes on becoming their new head coach, Recchi became Sullivan’s No. 1 choice.
Despite no coaching experience, the Penguins believe it’s going to be a very smooth transition from Tocchet to Recchi and that Recchi brings similar qualities in how he’ll be demanding but will also be able to handle today’s player.
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4. Happy Jaromir Jagr Anniversary.
Today marks the 16th year anniversary of the cash strapped Penguins at the time trading Jaromir Jagr to the Washington Capitals for Kris Beech, Michal Sivek, Ross Lupaschuk and $3 million+ in cash that will likely always live as the worst trade in Penguins history to about 99% of Penguin fans.
Here is a blurb from the Post-Gazette’s story from July 11, 2001 on the Penguins dealing Jagr to the Capitals:
[In the deal, announced by Penguins general manager Craig Patrick, the Capitals get Jagr and defenseman Frantisek Kucera, and send Kris Beech, Michal Sivek, Ross Lupaschuk to Pittsburgh.
Patrick said he was delighted with the players Pittsburgh received.
He called Beech the key to the deal and a potential franchise player whose skills are similar to former Penguins great Ron Francis.
Before the deal, the New York Rangers were believed to be the front runner to obtain Jagr. However, Patrick said he was never satisfied with any of the offers made for Jagr until talks with the Capitals became serious “within the last day or so.”
Prior to the Capitals’ offer, Patrick said he was becoming concerned that the Penguins would not be able to obtain proper value for Jagr.]
5. Here’s what I’ll argue as a strong runner up as the worst trade in Penguins history, especially with the 1995-1996 season being the last true Stanley Cup opportunity with Mario Lemieux still at the height of his playing ability and in his early 30’s.
July 8, 1995: To read this insider news, subscribe to get “Inside Access”!
If you guys are looking for worst trade ever, how about #10 pick overall for Hartland Monahan?
This crew has no idea what you are talking about. Remember Anders Hannkanson?
Yeah I do I forgot these are the long suffering fans some who actually started following hockey when 66 made his comeback from early retirement.
Better then stain and Npl. One starting to watch since Crosby joined the league and the other fat slob started to watch in 2016 when pens won the cup
Sam literally realized Pittsburgh had a team in 2005 – making this extra funny.
I missed some of this by about five years. Sorry – I was too young You guys and your old balls.
That’s ok LIL YodaII we understand. Children are handicapped when talking with adults.
Suprised Pouliot and Archibald both got 1 way deals. DP got $800k and Archi $675k.
Does this mean one of the D will be traded? I always wanted him to succeed, but I don’t think he’s that good. Maybe he’s the one on the block?
They’re probably out of options.
“This is his (Pouliot) year”
-GMJR
If we had a nickle for everytime we heard that line
Too many thumbs down requests crashed the site.
Joe dziedzic
Ramzi Abid
Why would you capitalize the first letter of his last name like that?
To his defense, he doesn’t defend himself, because it’s impossible.
Jeff Daniels
Having shitstain and Npl on this site is enough for this site to crash with their multiple accounts and spamming with their thumbs down activity when they can go do that on netflix nowadays
Right one cue. Just as I said. Now go address the question below.
They still have PJ parties?
How about Markus naslund for some guy I can’t name
Alex Stojanov… because they needed to add toughness lol. This alone should be reason enough to shake ones head when we still argue this crap and it was 20 years ago lol
Dave roche
He was traded straight up for Stojanov you dumbfuck lol
I think sam is just shouting out random former players now.
That must have broke your heart the night Naslund got traded.
Pens just named Sergei Gonchar an assistant coach (last I checked)
Love this move, granted him working with the D was already a thing.
This Jaccob Slavin extension seems a bit high to me. At the same time, makes me feel really good about the Schultz extension.
(Sam – I’ll save you the trouble of googling – Slavin is a d-man that plays for the Hurricanes – 7 year deal, $5.3M AAV – you’re welcome)
So if Eric hated the Schultz extension, he must think Slavin should be making Cole money.
now why you bringing me into your chatter? I did say he was a good player. I just didn’t see the 5.5 avg. pretty soon average guys will be making 4 mill or so per. which is not good.
Finishing top 10 in the Norris vote screams average.
Not what was meant on the above comment. if you have an average dman making 3 or 4 million a year then it does not bode well for hockey clubs. that was my point with the pretty soon avg guys will be making 4 mill/yr. I said Schultz is a good player, I also said I didn’t feel like 5.5 was a good number for him but hey I’m not the guy signing these players so…. they did so lets hope he keeps the production up and gets even better. because the next deal he gets if he keeps his… Read more »
I am sure we have all read this but this is why I am in no hurry to move this kid.
https://www.nhl.com/penguins/news/sprong-works-on-two-way-game/c-290218988
A great memory to share with me people… remember when there was a moderator and Sam got kicked off?
I remember that.
Do you think thats when he opened the 2nd account?
I think there’s a solid chance that that’s when he did it. Yes. That’s why 5 minutes after I post something, I have a -2, and then fifteen minutes later, Sam is here talking about how i’m on here all day and going around “thumbs downing people.”
The glory days.
I remember when pokemon Go was launched last year and guy disappeared for the summer
Remember when Npl changed his name to Sam once gayy marriage was accepted in the USA now he and Micheal Sam are official. But there are rumors this slob is cheating on him with Joey Chestnut
“San Jose is the 13th most valuable team worth 470MM and net earnings of 7.1MM – Forbes
Dallas is the 12th most valuable team worth 500M and net earnings of 20.9MM – Forbes
NYI is down at 18th worth 385M buuut net earnings of 2.7MM
Tampa is not a valuable franchise per-say but did have net earnings of 3MM” -Me
SAM – please address
nice work changing the source from ‘zero’ to ‘me’. that’s pretty funny
I think you just made that up. Thumbs down.
I just made it up? Why is you name changed from Npl to Sam? Just admit it you did it out of love to Micheal Sam when got married and now that relationship is rocky you are stuck with his last name
Ok, you got me. I married Michael Sam and were having marital issues.
Is it because you can’t have kids? Or if you adopt a kid. You want to be called daddy and not mommy
Having the best blue line assumes Letang plays…which is might presumptuous.
I’m just looking for memories to share with me people.
How about mattu garon should start game 6
Markus Naslund says hi.
Yeah really. I guess D forgot about that trade.
No shit, It’s not even like Naslund wasn’t playing well either lol
Naslund was damaged goods in the respect the Pens had no one to stand up for him when he was attack by Cun(t)nyworth that night in Hartford. He needed a change of scenery and everyone knew it. I think the Pens took first offer.
Guy was almost a PPG before he was traded, ya he desperately needed a change lol.
Wow great memories something that I can’t share with me people where since they discovered hockey in 09 and 16
What?
What’s that boy? Timmy fell down the well again?
“San Jose is the 13th most valuable team worth 470MM and net earnings of 7.1MM – Forbes
Dallas is the 12th most valuable team worth 500M and net earnings of 20.9MM – Forbes
NYI is down at 18th worth 385M buuut net earnings of 2.7MM
Tampa is not a valuable franchise per-say but did have net earnings of 3MM” -Zero
SAM – please address