Penguins/NHL
Fleury meeting with representation next week to discuss future plans
Marc Andre Fleury is one of the most respected players/members of the Penguins organization, while also one of the most popular players among his teammates.
Therefore, the team has intended to be very cautious in how they handle the Fleury situation publicly, and as expected, Penguins’ GM Jim Rutherford said today in a perfect world he would like to have Fleury and Matt Murray back next season.
“I can just say, if it was in a perfect world [Mike Sullivan) and I were making a decision right now, we’d like to start the season with Fleury and Murray, but we’ll have to see what the circumstances are and how we’ll deal with them going forward,” Rutherford said today.
The reality is that the Penguins don’t live in a perfect world.
The expansion rules are going to force the Penguins hand soon enough, so is the salary cap. The Penguins are right up against the cap for next season and their 22 year old No. 1 starter is going to need paid following the 2016-2017 season.
There is so much respect for Marc Andre Fleury in the organization, all indications are he’s going to get to drive the bus here on when his tenure as a Penguin comes to an end.
Does Fleury prefer to move on now and orchestrate a trade next weekend at the draft or play this season out and see where the chips fall next summer?
The most likely scenario is the former, per sources close to the situation.
Both parties will be meeting next week that will dictate where things go at the draft.
Already today there was a domino effect on the Fleury trade market.
The Carolina Hurricanes had internal discussions during their pro scouting meetings in early June about the possibility of trading for Fleury this off-season. There was also a few conversations along the way in the past seven to 10 days between both organizations.
At the end of the day, the Hurricanes went the more financially feasible route in resigning Cam Ward to a two year, $6.6 million contract.
The domino effect of this was the Calgary Flames had very strong interest in signing Cam Ward To read this insider news, subscribe to get “Inside Access”!
So the Caps get to enjoy watching the Penguins raise their 4th banner. Wonder who will be on hand when the Caps raise their regular season champs banner?
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who else saw lebron block that shot with 2 minutes yesterday. what clutch defense with 2 mins to go in a game 7. lebron james is a cool player and not a fuckface.
“The Cavs will never win with this team. Time to tear it down.” -Yoda, in mid March
Classy move by the classy player good job Mr darzukkk
Apparently he wanted to back to Russian after the 1st week he signed
Thank God Ken holland signed him only 3 years and not 5 years that Pavel and his agent wanted. Expect similar scenario from our Russian down the road
Well, I guess Malkin will never do that then, because you’re never right. Franson and Vesey! Toronto!
Was he not comfortable speaking English?
Darzuk, lol. Idiot.
Domino effect going strong!
It’s domini effect
Oh shitt!
Yoda is worse then aids
I’m not even sure it’s close.
it’s really funny. you keep playing the st.bleury was hurt card, but if that was the case, can you please explain why murray got the net back in game 6 in the tampa series?
Because he hadn’t played in a month and a half, Jesus this has been explained ad nauseum. Then again look who I am talking too, no surprise that you don’t understand why players look different when they are in “mid-season from” vs how most look at the start. Yoda is immune to the idea of “rink rust” lol. #fuckfaceknew
Also this is more typical cherry picking bullshit, you don’t only suck at hockey but you suck at constructing a proper argument
Oh… Fuckface
I also like how he keeps calling Fleury a “salary dump.”
Especially with the myriad of articles on the subject matter that suspect MAF will get a solid return.
He really is incapable of understanding the most rudimentary of concepts.
Draft in a week, free agency in two. Love all the coverage! Really getting my money’s worth. Excellent.
He tends to put out his best scoop in the instant buzz section. He’s always the first to get info.
Yoda is the biggest lying piece of trash I have ever seen on a board. You suck man… in every aspect of life. Fuckface
And yo mama wears army boots
Sam used to be the runaway moron on this board. The fact that he hasn’t been posting recently has actually improved his status and yoda has put himself in the running for the biggest moron in North America. It will be fun to see how the race plays out over this summer. I just hope it doesn’t rub off on his wife and Fleury’s daughter.
Having soo many gayy Democrats around here it will be a tough to win it
And just like that he’s back in the lead.
Haha all it took was one comment. Congrats sam. You continue to impress. Thats a thumbsup.
i bet you weep when the salary dump your patron saint, the man with the “legendary smile”.
It’s strange that you constantly talk about his smile. Is that what did it for your wife? The pieces are starting to come together.
Is the domini effect already taking place on the marc andre fleury trade front?
Does anyone else find it hilarious that Yoda refuses to acknowledge the FACT that in March, well after the new coach was brought in and after Fleury had been injured and Murray was starting, he claimed the Pens wouldn’t make the playoffs?
#Yoda knew
#fraud4life
My favorite is that he’s trying to bait people into a Fleury conversation, but it just blows up in his face because nobody talks Fleury with him and instead trashes his outstanding prediction record. He needs to change his handle to KingFraud to go along with the big liar KingPuck on the board.
can you guys do me a favor and say that st.bleury sucks as soon as he changes teams? or will you all retain your cult membership to the man with 3 miracles which established his sainthood…..a stanley cup, 300 wins, and a “legendary smile”.
Gay Fraud
Your just mad because your daughter has his smile, because in reality, she’s his daughter.
I hope he wins a cup with his new team, then shits in a bag and mails it to you
So in other words, you are retaining your cult membership card.
Fucken idiot, lol. It’s comical how stupid you really are
This trade Fleury vs trade Murray debate is very intriguing, I wish I knew a little more about Jarry or had seen him play more so that I could form a more informed opinion.
yeah, real interesting. a 22 year old with an entry level contract who just won the cup or a man who put up a sub .900% in the post season 6 out of 10 seasons and who was given his job back in game 5, who choked again, and who threw himself under the bus to the media, who was then replaced by the guy who should have never lost the job in the 1st place. my god, can we please get rid of the distraction known as st.bleury already….next weekend can’t get here soon enough.
Gay Fraud
Not being able to comprehend the debate just verifies what a fraud you are, I attempt to explain it to you but since there’s no chance of you understanding it I won’t waste my time.
#can’twinwiththeteamtheyhadinmarch
#yodaknew
I can’t even fathom only understanding the game at your remedial level. It’s almost as if you’re retarded.
Sam, make sure to wish all the men who participated in the gangbang on your mom that resulted in you being illegitimately conceived a Happy Father’s Day.
next weekend, the man with the “legendary smile” could be salary dumped….and i loooooooooove it!
Such a fraud…and i looooooooooooove it!
It’s hard not to love it. Remember when he said this team couldn’t win a cup in mid March?!
the old man blew it up. step 1, replace the clown with a real goaltender….and i loooooove it!
Can’t win! And you were there pounding that drum after all of the changes! And I love it! Fraud.
“blew it up” MAF was hurt… worsthockey fan period!
Number two b returns with a vengeance. Sam seemed established himself as the worst fan of this team and then you had to open your fucking mouth again. I really wish you had the sense of personal pride to live up to the myriad of site quitting promises you fucken fraud… And fuckface
your the worst fan. any fan who would want to keep a 5.75 cap hit choke artist around is a homer yinzer. i saw through the st.bleury propaganda years ago. i’m a great fan because i want the best possible team on the ice. you are a crappy fan because you want a guy with a “legendary smile” even though he chokes every playoff year. he choked again. can you say .875?
You said the best possible team would have to be obtained via an offseason overhaul. And you said it in mid March. You barely know what you’re watching, fraud.
Yet I never said blow it up, I have been all for the decisions that allowed the team to win and while I have been critical I have not hated the guys that this team wins and dies with. Youre a shitty fan because you would rather see the team change for the sake of change, ignoring facts, just so it fits your view. Plus you dont even get the game at all in the 1st place… fraud, liar, horrible fan
Where’s Benny?
R.I.P. Benny. He never thought he would see sub .500 bucco ball again.
Tim hortons closed apparently same went and in bouht all the hot dog and got so big he got stuc inside. Mayb nextt time theyll have salad instead hel say no
How did I do?
Bitches be crazy!
Jimmy Howard on the trading block.
Dougie Hamilton for MAF? Done.
No thanks.
st.bleury for a 5th round pick….done!
No thanks.
Fraud.
Fuckface
The pens could move st bleury to the flyers and I bet you guys would run out and buy flyer jerseys with 29 on the back the next day.
You’re the only fraud here champ.
Did you take off your Lundqvist jersey when he was getting yanked constantly?
You’re a special kind of fuckface
Pens need to make sure st bleury stays in the metro. I want a playoff choking goaltender in the pens division at all times.
Fraud.
His name is Lundqvist
If they trade Fleury, Yoda will finally be right….you do know a Broken clock is right twice a day!!!
Benny on suicide watch?
Stephen colbert show canceled with the HBK line thanks to Kessel apparently they send a private jet with 8 seats and Kessel said it’s too small to fly with and said no. Maybe they can send a hot dog truck he might say yes then
Stan, how bad is he at this?
I just read the story… it has a bad odor to it! I have serious doubts
As bad as your mom’s performance at the interracial gangbangg
So, so bad.
The mentally retarded Facebook friend I have makes better jokes than this.
GMJR said he I hoping to start the season with both fleury and Murray so Yoda hold your celebration
Breaking news
He’s been saying this for a bit, that dont mean fuck all if MAF says he wants out fuckface
1 week away from the draft. DePaoli is probably a mad man right now, with call after call after call talking to NHL types, people in the know, those in league circles, sources close to the situation, one scout who thinks about things, sam… Look forward to hearing what they have to say.
Lotta tire kicking going on
E4?
Why are you even on this site you fat pig
Because you touch yourself at night.
Reading a lot that the escalator will be activated! Take it for what its worth as its not in writing but the feeling is they player will up salaries I guess. Good for us if this is accurate news
So – Sprong is out 6-8 months – that’s lovely.
Maybe they can take a flyer on Marty St. Louis then.
Beau Bennett part 2!!!
He does age like fine wine.
Well that explains the shitty end to his year. Love these injuries on these guys this early in the careers that seems to hold back progress. BAH!
I think it was against Hershey in Game 1 or 2 where Sprong got rocked pretty hard.
It actually happened 2 weeks ago in practice.
The report I saw actually said 7-8 months not 6-8 months which sounds like a Hills Sachs labrum tear, went through that exact injury with my son last year and it was brutal. No active of any kind with the injured shoulder for 6 months then 3 months of rehab once he was able to put the shoulder under stress.
Who beat your son up?
Happened in game, the sad part is that he blew the other kid up but when the kid went down their legs got tangled which forced my son to go down awkwardly and chicken wing himself against the boards. Gotta my kid credit, he rehabbed it for 3 weeks and then finished the last month of the season before having the surgery.
Fleury traded yet
Now look who is doing his best sam 😉
#SeeAt
The Pens stand a very good chance of adding more young talent to this SC caliber team. Internally, they could be adding Sprong, Wilson, and Sundqvist – and externally, its at least a realistic possibility that they add a Poirier-type caliber player. And since Vesey is all but guaranteed not to go to Boston or Toronto now, he could be an option as well. Exciting offseason ahead for the champs.
Okay, so this is kind of playing NHL Be a GM mode, but this could realistically be feasible. I would imagine value for Fleury would be somewhat low being that everyone knows we need to move a goalie, MAF the obvious candidate being more convenient. However, Murray’s value will be higher than it ever will again and teams would have no problem paying for him. So let’s say we traded something like Murray and DP to Calgary for the 6th and Emile Poirier (mentioned below by someone else) and then see if we could swap that 6th and something else… Read more »
MAF’s value wont be low, just because be requested a trade and needs to be moved. Hes an elite goalie in his prime at an affordable cost for the next 3/4 years. If anything, his value should be very high because you just dont see this type of opportunity very often.
It’s supply and demand and right now there isn’t much demand.
If Martin jones and Cory Schneider fetched first round picks, a two time cup winner in his prime will fetch a first or first round talent. Minimum.
I was under the impression Murray would face 3-4 first round picks. That’s based off teams perceiving him as a franchise player to build around.
It will be lowered seeing that Bishop/Vasy and Anderson/Gibson are both going to be on the market as well.
Most of what I’m seeing(rumors) suggest that Fleury’s value will be 2nd/3rd round pick depending on the team and a mid level prospect, Murray’s could be as high as a 1st and a good prospect depending on the team. As odd as it may feel, with Jarry in the organization it’s definitely a conversation that merits serious consideration.
Exactly. And I’m under the impression that MAF is worth more than just a second/third to the Penguins. I’d keep him and optimize Murray’s value since Jarry seems to be coming along nicely.
Fleury for Bozak to offset Malkin going back to Russia, this year or next. Or the following year or 2. Lets just play it by ear, but hes definitely not going to play with the Pens forever.
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You said Bozak.
According to Josh Yohe, then Pens will only trade Fleury if he asks to be traded but most expect him to ask to be traded.
He wasnt bad in the playoffs, but for $2M, and cheaper options available – i bid adieu to Eric Fehr.
Kessel bringing the cup to Toronto what a weirdo
That’s the only way that country will see someone with a cup, so you should be happy.
his friends are there idiot
Who the hot dog cart guy?
Oh thats original (heavy eye roll)….get something new
Everyone’s anxious to see Vesey team up with Cody Franson in Toronto!
new rumours have him going to Vancouver to play with McDavid
I could totally see that.
He may end up on a line with Rust.
I wonder what winning the Stanley Cup, whilst eternally needing help on the wings, does to the chances of landing JImmy Vesey.
Isn’t he signing with Boston?
I don’t know – is that happening? Fait accompli?
Well he cannot officially sign until Aug 15th but all the chatter was there was a deal verbally agreed too. It is not legally binding so the kid could change his mind. Probably wouldnt hurt to place a call to his agent
Disregard^
JImmy Vesey. will go with bruins or leafs
Well, cross those two teams off of the list. Ladd Hudler!
you can do that but ill still stick by the teams i said since the trade deadline
bruins because of the school
and leafs because his father works there
I’ll stick by “you haven’t been right about shit in 7 years, so why start now?”
you havent been right ever. You and your buddy NPL never bring anything to this board other then criticizing about crosby the best player in the world and criticizing about every ones comments and giving thumbs down to everybody
All due respect, Sam (and that equates to ZERO respect), I’ll put my record here up against your’s any day.
Interesting… so in March he was for sure going to Boston… by April he “had his sights set on Toronto”. In the same Toronto article it mentions Nashville may still lure him there AND if he signs with TO tampering charges could be laid…. this is very wide open I bet. There is no verbal agreement in place the more I have looked, it’s all speculation. Pittsburgh could very well be an attractive place for this kid in the same manner NY was for Hayes a couple years ago. You will probably end up with egg on your face here… Read more »
his brother was drafted by the leafs too who knows maybe Jimmy can join his brother and father in Toronto
unless he wants to go with boston
MAF trade may be inevitable… he and his agent may request!
According to a source with ties to the Players’ Association, the cap — set at $71.4 million this year — would be reduced to approximately $69.3M for 2016-17 unless the PA triggers the 5 percent escalator. If the union does exercise the bump, then the cap should increase to approximately $72.8M. The union, which debated the issue at meetings at the end of the week, has voted for the increase all but once.
Canadian dollar is killing this league thanks to clowns like Sam
fans like your mom is killing this league with empty arenas
That literally makes zero sense. Another Sam zinger! #SamKnew
And what’s the deal with Sam’s mom?
I dont care which goalie is traded, if its to the Flames, im guessing JR’s #1 target is Emile Poirier. Extremely fast and highly skilled winger that id love to see next to Sid or Geno. Could also open open the possibility of trading Kunitz and his salary after his solid playoff. Thats a little over $9M in savings (if Fleury), yet the team is more skilled and somehow – even faster. Use those savings for Mikkel Boedker and upgrade the defense.
Youre welcome.
I wonder if Kunitz is bouncing around the idea of retiring.
I don’t see why he would. I’d rather make $4 million for one more season.
If it is st bleurys last season as a pen, his last performance was fitting. Another major meltdown in the playoffs just like your prophet said would happen.
Concussion leading to a month and a half off then thrust into a hard fought seven game series vs the defending eastern champs, losing by a single ******* goal in overtime too = meltdown. Congrats, you just made the biggest fuckface on the board a two man race again
Fraud
Total fraud.
I’m not getting my hopes up. st bleary only has value for teams who will miss the playoffs. No good teams will want him and he can veto 12 teams. I fear the pens could be stuck with the smiley faced Saint. If they do move him, don’t expect much and who cares if you don’t. A salary dump is more than acceptable.
Fraud.
LMMFAO “a salary dump is more than acceptable” if thats the case we keep him this year and roll the dice this offseason! Fucken fuckface. We trade for assets dip shit, MAF is worth a lot… Murray is probably worth more, While I am in the keep Murray camp (rather keep both if feasible but it isnt) I still like the idea of seeing what he is worth.
Please get this clown the F out of this town. This should have happened after the meltdown in the flyer series several years ago. If st bleurt is moved, it will be an incredible day for the organization.
Fraud.
By that same logic, should have have jettisoned Letang and Crosby after they melted down against the Flyers? I’m anticipating your detailed response….
Sorry – do you know what jettison means?
Polarizing!
I was actually about to post something similar. What do you guys think Murray would get? I think a lot of people are a bit too high on him. He just turned 22 and I could absolutely see him not having the career many think he will. I’m not sure what other gms value him at, because there are obviously flaws in his game. As mentioned before, you will have to pay him very soon. Would Calgary give up their first for him? Just curious to see what you guys think he would fetch.
I’ve floated this out there – I wish i had a clue – I’ll say this – Martin Jones fetched a 1st round pick – and he had barely played a game – this kid is 22 and has a Cup, and no unfixable flaws (at least, that’s the perception). On top of that ,he has the mental game – that part isnt’ even debatable. Combine that with a cheap year of labor, and you have a goalie problem solved for 12 years. And for the Penguins, you merely have to revert back to your all-star goalie with 2 cup… Read more »
I think his flaws are fixable as well and if you have the mental capacity to win the cup as a 22 year old, you’re going to have a lot of value. You would have to think that their opinion of jarry will play a big factor into it. Like you said though, it’s all about the offer. Either way, it’s a good problem to have.
Anybody seen Benny? I’m concerned. The buccos are about to drop to .500 and under in the next series.
Murray = Jim Carey
If you do trade Murray, who’s the new backup? Pappy can’t be that dumb to put his cup hopes next year all in the Murray basket.
It would certainly be foolish to put your cup hopes in a guy who you traded before the year started.
Why wouldn’t Calgary go after Anderson from Anaheim or Ben Bishop? Also, I mentioned it a long time ago and Stan brought it up last thread….why not dangle Murray out there to see what you can get? His value is sky high right now. You could ride Fleury for the next 3 years till Jarry is ready or another goalie you draft.
Who has the higher ceiling? Is Jarry projected to be better than Murray?
Jarry was a 1st rounder, Murray 3rd rounder. I would expect Jarry had the higher ceiling, but Murray progressed much faster. Plus, as D says, Murray is gonna be getting paid after the 16/17 season, so is the cap savings only for 1 year?
Pretty sure Jarre was a 2nd round selection, he was the Pens first selection but they didn’t have a 1st that year, if I’m not mistaken they traded up in the 2nd to grab Jarry. As for the higher ceiling, it’s been reported that some inside the organization feel Jarry is the goalie of the future and some feel it’s Murray. As for pedigree, Jarry was the top goalie in his draft class, Murray was the 10th goalie selected in his class.
Yup. I stand corrected. Thanks Jay.
Thanks boys! That is what I thought. I thought I heard that the organization was split on the two.
I believe we traded tk for the jarry pick
Jarry was definitely a second rounder, he was the TK flip to SJ return (thanks twice Sharks…. Wait, Martin was shit after running his mouth too… Better make it three times). That said draft position has fuck all to do with how they turn out. I know Jarry has had some highs and some significant lows.
Zach Fucale was the top goalie of that draft class.
Can’t we enjoy the cup for two weeks.
The parade is done
Time to blow it up. We can’t win with these guys.
That sounds so familiar….
You act like the offseason stuff isn’t fun. I can still enjoy the Cup while talking about the draft and impending free agency. I love this stuff.
Where are the rumors of Malkin to Chicago that Madden is talking about?
Eklund had it a few days ago.
See at Marc. Hardly knew you
#SeeAt
“There is so much respect for Fleury in this organization, all indications are that Fleury is going to drive the bus on when his tenure in Pittsburgh comes to an end”
Respect must be code for “no movement clause” DePaoli, can you confirm? Thanks.
Yoda…..
Most importantly GMJR today said they plan to offer Beau Bennett meaning Sam was right again when he predicting Bennett’s time in Pittsburgh was over.
You really as dumb as it gets sometimes you have no choice due to the salary cap issue of bennett was so important why didn’t he play in the playoffs more. Simular situation happened with fedotenko and TK. Sometimes you have no choice belive me if pens have more space BB would’ve not get offer
So because the Pens have little cap space, they need to spend what little money they have on “useless” players instead of trying to find potential help at low cost, e.g. Matt “dont call me John again Sam” Cullen.
And even if that was the case, didnt you know their cap situation before you ONCE AGAIN GUARANTEED something that will ONCE AGAIN not come true?
In your words, “you really as dumb as it gets”
I love D’s reporting some times, claims the cap is going to force the Pens to trade Fleury even though they can bring back the virtually the same roster that just won the Cup and still have around 1M in space.
09 pens lost 12 or 14 players and cap space was i think 59m
now in 2016 they are in a better situation
I like the idea of keeping fleury this year but if calgary gives us anything decent and he will go there then I would make the trade. I just don’t want to lose Murray next year if we can’t trade fleury for some reason.
There’s really no scenario where they “won’t” be able to trade Fleury at the deadline or next off season, there may be a difference in value(could be either positive or negative) but there will always be a deal available if the Pens want it.
Sure there is, he has a no movement clause. If its not waived, they could lose Murray.
Murray is the Future with no doubt as i said day 1 fleury signed his contract exttention but now Murray is not ready yet first off the team wont block as many shots as they do in playoffs then we dont know if murray can play 60+ games and 3rd we all so he led the playoffs with the most soft goals allowded Yes he did get victories but mostly the team in front of him gave him the W many times they bailed him out when he gave away the lead in the playoffs pens did play good but… Read more »
Bottom line, youre a fucklng idiot.
where is yoda he must be happy with this article today
also same been saying last 2 years trade the russian the more we keep him more his value goes down and stuck with him
he is always injured if pens really wanted cap space russian shouldve been gone 2 years ago now its too late we are stuck with that bum for another year due to his injury
Average games played since 2010:
Sidney Crosby – 56
Evgeni Malkin – 55.83
Trade the guy that produced on par with the Conn Smythe winner but with one less elbow? No thanks.
as SAME said the minute he resigned his contract extension pens should only trade him at the end of his contract year when he is in his last year i did say murray will be the guy to go with but now its too soon and risky
at least keep fleury this season and trade him on the deadline if its causing problems between two goalies here
but in my opinion its too soon and we have seen many hot goalies come and go
just a recent example Hammond and Dubnyk
Lets have some fun breaking this down: What minute did you resign your contract extension? I dont recall. Also, how can you “re”sign an extension, if the extension is what is new about the contract? Hammond was a 26 year old nobody who posted mediocre numbers throughout juniors and the AHL before finding some success in the NHL for a few months. Dubnyk was a 28/29 year old minor leaguer with no track record of excellence in his life – similar to you. This is what you call an anomaly. See if you can find a youtube video that explains… Read more »