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Is Michel Therrien on thin ice?
The Montreal Canadiens have four wins in their last 14 games and have lost six of seven after a 4-0 loss to the Bruins last night. The team just can’t flat out score lately and when Carey Price is saying the team has lost their identity, there’s some deeper issues going on.
Price having a save percentage under .890 over his last 14 starts isn’t helping things but as the Canadiens enter their bye week, the pitch forks are out for Michel Therrien.
Therrien lost his job with the Penguins in February of 2009 due to circumstances when the Penguins had lost their identity but a big difference here is the Canadiens are in first place (for now), Pittsburgh was out of the playoff picture at the time, and Therrien has a major supporter in GM Marc Bergevin who some around the league believe will go down with Therrien before he makes a coaching move. Therrien is his guy.
Therrien was a great hire for the Canadiens in 2012 in getting them relevant again so quickly. Is he a great coach? No, but the guy can coach and gets results. The pressure, though, is on mounting on Therrien and Bergevin from their higher-ups. You don’t trade PK Subban for a 31 year old Shea Weber to just be a one round team. A big first place lead is now slipping. Ottawa six points behind with five games in hand.
16 days until the trade deadline, Montreal is on just about everything in the trade market from Matt Duchene, Martin Hanzal, to Patrick Berglund. If there’s a team that’s going to make a splash, signs point to Montreal doing it.
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According to Adrian Dater, the Avalanche had three scouts last night at the Bruins – Canadiens game, including Joe Sakic. Colorado has been talking to Montreal about Duchene, Boston about Gabriel Landeskog.
Talk among NHL teams is the Avalanche fear Matt Duchene and his reps at CAA Sports are prepared to demand a trade by the summer, one reason the Avalanche are pushing to make a trade by March 1. They don’t want to get to the point where the player starts driving the bus.
Lots of talk in recent days of the Hurricanes being a potential match. With Duchene having just two years left on his contract, some executives doubt Hurricanes GM Ron Francis will step up and pay the cost to acquire Duchene, with Duchene able to walk in two years.
As for the Penguins, the suggestion that Derrick Pouliot and Marc Andre Fleury could put the Penguins in the mix for Matt Duchene is getting some good laughs around the league.
No chance and Jim Rutherford wouldn’t even waste his time putting that out there to Joe Sakic who has established his high asking price with various teams, including the Penguins over the last month.
One thing about Jim Rutherford. He’s revered as being the most honest GM to negotiate a trade with. He’s never someone who tries to come in and low ball someone. He’ll offer value from the start. That’s why he’s so respected.
When the Penguins were looking to acquire Daniel Winnik in 2015, Rutherford told the Leafs weeks before the trade was completed that he agreed Winnik was worth a second round pick and to call back when the Leafs were prepared to do a deal.
Rutherford is the same way when teams are trying to trade for one of his players. Ray Shero tried to acquire Ray Whitney for months leading up to the 2010 trade deadline and the asking price from Rutherford was exactly the same in January as it was until the final minutes before the deadline. Shero told Penguin officials at the time he was disappointed in not being able to land Whitney but respected Rutherford so much in that there was no B.S. in dealing with him. The price was the price.
The Penguins have made it known to the Avalanche what they’d be willing to offer and we’ll see where it goes in the coming weeks. Sources say one thing that intrigues Rutherford so much about Duchene is the Crosby/To read this insider news, subscribe to get “Inside Access”!
Wonder how Bobby FRAUD Ryan doing this season between 3rd and 4th line and being healthy scratched at times
I don’t know what’s worst a fraud like him that gets healthy scratched and bounced around lines or a con artists like malkin that takes his extended usual vacations at this time of the year
As long as you keep ignoring the post below, you have zero rights to call anyone a FRAUD, you fat tub of goo.
He won’t even acknowledge it. It’s great. He just uses both of his accounts to thumb down posts.
He’s scared of it. he couldn’t look like a bigger babygirl. Just reinforces how french he is -throw up that white flag and surrender like a little bitchh
That’s you. You fat Democrat
I’m french? Interesting retort.
He still won’t acknowledge it. He also still thinks St. Louis is a viable option in our top 6. Malkin was also supposed to be back in Russia 5 years ago, according to fat same.
Speaking of vacations… Now that Geno is back what are the odds that Crosby hits 1000 tonight? Also who cares about Bobby Ryan? 1. Montreal 2. Ottawa 3. Pittsburgh? Are they at least number three? “Sam… back to the turnover conversation. Just statistically… Malkins ratio of GvA to TkA was 0.91 in 2016 (41 TkA to 45 GvA) vs Crosby’s 0.57 (24 TkA to 42 GvA). So please explain how Sid’s gaff last night was his “first” and how Malkin not being there is somehow responsible? Marchand http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/gotta-see-it-pittsburgh-penguins-sidney-crosbys-giveaway-allow-boston-bruins-brad-marchand-to-score/ Another one… they are available… they happen more often than you will… Read more »
Therrien fired yet?
Sam – please address
“Sam… back to the turnover conversation. Just statistically… Malkins ratio of GvA to TkA was 0.91 in 2016 (41 TkA to 45 GvA) vs Crosby’s 0.57 (24 TkA to 42 GvA). So please explain how Sid’s gaff last night was his “first” and how Malkin not being there is somehow responsible?
Marchand http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/gotta-see-it-pittsburgh-penguins-sidney-crosbys-giveaway-allow-boston-bruins-brad-marchand-to-score/
Another one… they are available… they happen more often than you will admit to yourself. It was a poor play, period”
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Back by popular demand….
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Is it in snow?
Any pictures of stains workplace? Buckeye Donuts
You making fun of my workplace when you leech off of your mom is kinda funny, fatty.
You made Same’s buckeye wet! I love how you have his back. It’s cute.
Most of this board > Simply Dusty
Yawwwwwwn. You should get a hobby or friends or something. Just sayin.
This from the guy living in his parents basement. Isn’t time you post a hot dog cart picture for Sam? Joke
Simply Dusty……. is there any other kind?
Boyle > Bonino
Why bonino is amazing he is better then Sutter and part of the HBK line. Having Boyle will create fake HBK line
Boyle’s a MAN. Bonino skates around with his cute amish beard, so the clowns on this site love him.
Clowns on this site like to drool over new commers
TK and Bennett too.
Bonino is a cup winner… Sutter is over rated trash that killed possession! In one year Bonino had a more memorable time in Pittsburgh than Sutters entire stay and that’s a fact. Even as he has struggled to score at least he isn’t giving the puck to opposing players at every opportunity.
Sammich drools over players born in my country even if they suck!
This is a fun time of the year when the real stupid people show their colors.
He’s talking to you Simply Dusty.
So we should expect your big reveal in the near future?
Couple days ago… wondering why there were scouts at a game when TV footage would suffice..
#FatLivesMatter
Holy shit. NPL is that you? You’re back !
“Duchene will be a penguin”
-Mark Madden
Maybe they will throw in Zubrus as well.
Still waiting for them to complete the Jagr deal….
Puts new meaning to “a player to be named later”.
“fleury is a 1st ballot hall of famer” -mark madden
“fleury never called me after our night of passion. now I’m ‘triggered'” -yogurt
I was hearing Fleury, Rust and a 1st for the Ducher.
The cornerstone of any deal for Landeskog OR Duchene, all along, has been that they want a young up and coming defenseman. So…I see a flaw with what you’re “hearing.”
Never said it was accurate or I agreed…Just said people I heard talking about it said this is what they heard. The morons on the broadcast are the ones that said DP and Fleury, now you’re talking.
If it didnt include either Maata or Dumo, hard time seeing it
How hasnt Sakic accepted such a great offer?
Check your hearing.
therrien made the dumbest decision in the history of the NHL. game 1 of the 2008 finals and he scratched gary roberts and had georges laraque in the lineup. what a clown.
Back in the day when you could sit down without being in immense pain.
Like dB was any better scratching jussi and having tk instead
“Sam… back to the turnover conversation. Just statistically… Malkins ratio of GvA to TkA was 0.91 in 2016 (41 TkA to 45 GvA) vs Crosby’s 0.57 (24 TkA to 42 GvA). So please explain how Sid’s gaff last night was his “first” and how Malkin not being there is somehow responsible?
Marchand http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/gotta-see-it-pittsburgh-penguins-sidney-crosbys-giveaway-allow-boston-bruins-brad-marchand-to-score/
Another one… they are available… they happen more often than you will admit to yourself. It was a poor play, period”
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Get rid of Bonino and add Brian Boyle.
Tampa wants a 1st round pick for Boyle, so….
Per buckeye Donuts
“Sam… back to the turnover conversation. Just statistically… Malkins ratio of GvA to TkA was 0.91 in 2016 (41 TkA to 45 GvA) vs Crosby’s 0.57 (24 TkA to 42 GvA). So please explain how Sid’s gaff last night was his “first” and how Malkin not being there is somehow responsible?
Marchand http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/gotta-see-it-pittsburgh-penguins-sidney-crosbys-giveaway-allow-boston-bruins-brad-marchand-to-score/
Another one… they are available… they happen more often than you will admit to yourself. It was a poor play, period”
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Yeah for sure, especially since bonino was so awful in the playoffs last year. #simply dusty
You are awful at this. Stop posting and just read the comments and learn something.
Doesnt do much to help…
On the plus side for Sam, the pens could be scouting down here in Tampa to make a deal for St. Louis, he’d probably be better than Kessel.
Someone should update the stats comparison – I might get to it later today.
One thing I could see Tampa and Pittsburgh doing is maybe Maatta and a second or third for Palat who will be an RFA that the lightning are going to have trouble retaining with Drouin and Johnson also having expiring contracts. Pens would need to try to get another defenseman cheap somewhere else.
So they would add Maatta at 4+ million in order to not pay for Palat at about 4+ million? He hasnt exactly been terrific since the last deal so one could assume he is gonna get a small increase from where he is at now. If he is asking for a lot more he is nuts and I wouldnt want that near us anyway
Plus I am still curious to see what Sprong will do. Losing this season sucks hard but he could still be a player
Not to mention – when it’s obvious to pretty much anyone that this team NEEDS a defenseman, making a move to cause the team to need TWO defensemen makes little to no sense. One thing I do think – Rutherford is GOING for it. Again. You pretty much garner that from Friedge’s comments the other night, whereby he said Rutherford (not direct with relation to Duchene, but in general) said that if he has to add salary now and clean it up in the summer, he will. That’s not the comments from a man that’s willing to sit idle if… Read more »
Maatta has been a liability the last two years and just a terrible fit in Sullivan’s system. They’re going to have to either move him or expose him for nothing if they want to retain Schultz (why wouldn’t they)…Dumo and Letang would be the other two protected. It makes sense to swap him for a forward and invest on a cheap defenseman from somewhere else to fill the bottom pairing with Daley
It makes literally no sense. Even if you feel that way, that they’re going to have to move him (which I might actually subscribe to), it’s still a move you make in the summer – not one you make when you’re looking to repeat as Cup champions. Putting yourself in a position to have Ruhwedel or Oleksy in your lineup the minute someone is hurt, or filling in with a “cheap defenseman” is a move a team re-tooling makes – not one with higher aspirations. You deal with Maatta in the summer, or you move him as a package for… Read more »
Im not saying Maatta isnt in play… I am saying he is not a fix for TBs cap problem
He soff
DB isnt on thin ice but MT is…hmmmm…. 1 cup to 0 AMERICAN coach > French epasking Canadian coach
Therrien on thin ice again? Who’d have thunk? Sammich why do you think the league is picking on Therrien? Who would be your choice to replace him as the coach of your favourite team?
Patrick Roy
“Sam… back to the turnover conversation. Just statistically… Malkins ratio of GvA to TkA was 0.91 in 2016 (41 TkA to 45 GvA) vs Crosby’s 0.57 (24 TkA to 42 GvA). So please explain how Sid’s gaff last night was his “first” and how Malkin not being there is somehow responsible?
Marchand http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/gotta-see-it-pittsburgh-penguins-sidney-crosbys-giveaway-allow-boston-bruins-brad-marchand-to-score/
Another one… they are available… they happen more often than you will admit to yourself. It was a poor play, period”
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So it is true then, Montreal is really your favourite team. Wonder if Roy is in a hurry to get back to the franchise that treated him so poorly on his way out the door?
Why would the Pens need to sens scouts to watch the Sabres? Can’t they just catch highlights and learn all their is to about the guy? 😉
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