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The Penguins entered the bye break believing that Matt Murray’s injury was very short-term.
However, the million dollar question with the Penguins goaltending situation now is whether this little strong run from Marc Andre Fleury of late, named player of the week for 12/26 – 1/1, and another minor injury from Matt Murray has Penguins’ GM Jim Rutherford eventually going back to his initial plan A (before the season started) of keeping both goaltenders this season and let it settle out in the summer.
It’s been no secret the Penguins in early December began signaling to teams they were open for business on Fleury but have been met with a limited market for now.
Has things really changed in just a matter of days?
“It’s getting awkward,” [hide]Darren Dreger said last Wednesday (12/27) on NBCSN, the night Murray got hurt. “And I think we can all appreciate why. You’re talking about two goaltenders in Matt Murray, who most recently won a Stanley Cup under head coach Mike Sullivan, versus Marc-Andre Fleury, who also has a Stanley Cup champion ring with the Pittsburgh Penguins. So you’ve got two solidified goalies here who are having to continue to share the crease. And that is never a good scenario for either guy, because they know that they’re starters. I wouldn’t say that it’s a tough environment. You’re talking about two pros here. And from Fleury’s perspective, he’s a very good guy in the room. He works hard in practice. He is ultimately a team guy. But he wants the net full-time and he’s not getting a full-time opportunity with the Pittsburgh Penguins. I believe what Jim Rutherford is hoping for is that the bubble teams in terms of the playoffs start to separate a little bit and maybe there’s a hint of desperation.”
NHL sources say there was lots of smoke just prior to the Christmas Break between the Dallas Stars and Pittsburgh Penguins. Pittsburgh has been tracking the Stars of late, including their farm system.
Penguins coaches would like to see management add a Ben Lovejoy type defenseman and Rutherford’s interest in defenseman Dan Hamhuis dating back to last season has prompted some whispers that there’s been exploratory talks between the Stars and Penguins about Hamhuis and it’s believed Dallas has also kicked around the idea of acquiring Marc Andre Fleury and Fleury’s name had come up between the two sides.
Hamhuis, 34, has one more season left on his current deal with a $3.75 million cap hit. The veteran defenseman has not fit in like the Stars thought he would and they’ve signaled to teams they are open to moving a veteran defenseman for another need, in addition to clearing room for one of their young blueliners to play.
Last year at the trade deadline when Rutherford tried to acquire Hamhuis, the Penguins were informed Hamhuis wouldn’t waive his no trade clause to Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh also made a call to Hamhuis agent Wade Arnott on July 1 to express interest. He didn’t want to come East.
This season Hamhuis doesn’t have the same protection. Hamhuis can block trades to 15 teams (mostly Eastern Conference teams) and did some checking today and the Capitals and Penguins are among three Eastern Conference teams the Stars could trade Hamhuis to without needing his consent.
Any Fleury-Hamhuis deal (in-season) with other pieces involved would be extremely complicated with Dallas because of their goaltending situation.
Kari Lehtonen ($5.9 million cap hit) and Antti Niemi ($4.5 million) are signed through next season.
Lehtonen, 33, is 9-10-3 with a 2.68 GAA and .904 save percentage.
Niemi is 7-5-4, 3.00 GAA and .908 save percentage.
Dallas is said to be determined to add a legitimate No. 1 goaltender by the summer with Ben Bishop long believed to be their No. 1 target, though, they’re not only focused on Bishop. The belief around the league is the Stars are starting to look at Fleury much more closely.[/hide]
That dude who took the last shootout chance for Canada reminded me of Same trying to form sentences on here. All herky jerky. Suck Frog Pu$$y!
I’m fat, insecure and cyber bully foreign-language speakers. Who am I?
If Stan happens to speak a foreign language, you’re describing yourself to a T.
Hey, lets not point out yet more hypocrisy from the man!
Let me guess shitt Stain will be here talking about team USA when he didn’t even watch or had a clue they were playing tonight
I don’t know why you do this… The kids were up by 2 twice… they blew it. Strome cannot carry a team. Good game but they let it go to a shootout and lost to one guy and the US deserves a ton of credit for fighting back.
Pick your battles better. I look at it this way, the last time I recall Canada losing a close gold medal game to the US they went on to win 5 straight… future looks bright if the IIHF stops ******* the tournament up 😉
Crack the Dom Mario! The streak lives!
And jackets streak ends at 16 games
Remember when sam used to pretend he was an insider by parroting whatever thefourthperiod.com broke because he thought nobody knew about that site? Ah….the good ole days.
No but I remember shittstain wanted C removed from Crosby and then traded.also calling price a fraud when sid and price are by far the 2 best players in the NHL
Oh you remember. You did it for years. You little fraud you.
Next you’re going to tell me you don’t remember why orpig gave you jilted lover syndrome. Why do you continue to lie?
I don’t like orpig and the caps but I want them to win in order pens keep 93 steak
You used to “love” orpig…before the “breakup.”
I know half of you here have no clue there is a tournament going on and depend hockey news though this site (Stain). but Russia just won the bronze at the bell museum.
Up next USA vs Canada
Quit pretending you know things other people don’t know – you’re literally the last to know and have the least amount of knowledge – in nearly all situations.
Like you know anything only thing you know is making donuts and thumbs downing people here
The only reason you follow them so closely is because they’re closer to your age.
Only reason you never follow is because your and npl’s hockey only starts in April
It’s no secret you thumbs down everything… you even thumbs downed memories of a former great. Such a fucken liar
Apparently you occupy half of the TIOPS population.
the only smoke surrounding the pens is the smoke from the crack rocks management is smoking thinking they are going to be able to trade st.bleury for anything of value and without eating most of his contract. #everyonelovesaclown, #pussiewithrosesonhismask, #3miracles, #perfectteeth
Hey look, another unsolicited MAF post filled with dumbfuckery from yoda, thats a change!
Eh – give it a few days – if Fleury is playing well come Sunday – he’ll go back into hiding for a week. You know how he does.
Hey D, any word on the Jack Johnson trade yet?
Milt Schmidt passed away today. Obviously not a Boston fan, but I’d imagine he’d be a hell of a guy to have with few drinks and listen to some stories with.
Sad day, I mean I clearly never watched him play but a historic figure for that franchise. Just watched him wave to the crowed at the Classic. I even remarked how old he seemed to look. I remember me and a good fried nerding out bad on NHL2003. We created Original Six all-time rosters. Used Legends of Hockey DVD set and a book called “Kings of the Ice” in order to get a total scouting report on the players. Milt Schmidt with Bobby Bauer and Woody Dumart was quite the line lol… then again that team was still all Bobby… Read more »
Stanchion, another donut please.
Dude – you better get down there – your boy is taking grenades.
Again I have to ask…. Yaloni? Maloda?
Why keep trying to acquire someone that obviously doesn’t want to be here?? He’s not even that good. Move on
st.bleury for a bag of pucks would be a good deal. not only does that clown choke every post season, he paints flowers on his helmet because he is a big pus$ie. move that goof right fucking now.
It’s called fleur-de-lis it’s a quebec symbol you even see on quebec flag. Also that symbol iris gangs use in prison now a days
Knowing that it symbolizes Quebec actually drives yodas point home. It’s hard to believe such a large group of pansies comes from one province.
he has roses painted on his helmet. that isn’t on the quebec flag.
Maybe because fleur means flower in English
Fuckk man you have taken this fleury obsession to another level. What has he done so bad to u u expect him to win the cup every year when u had a coach Like DB with a pee wee hockey style in front of him when I’ve said to many people including u at the end of day a good system makes u win games not just talent and DB heavily relied on talent not a good system
Coincidence some of fleury best seasons been under MT coincidence price best seasons been under MT. My answer to u a system plays a lot of role of goalies stats u clowns might hate MJ because it ruined Crosby stats but for fleury it was good he had career high 10 shutouts .but bandwagons here only think number are only based on talent and not system. Those individual plays are long gone hockey has become a systematic game .but who am I talking to half the people here don’t even watch hockey Yoda half the time u say u missed… Read more »
You’re right… we should have sacrificed the cups and they style they play so we could insulate a goalie. Do you read what you write? Ever?
Marc Andre Fleury: Career high in wins with 42 in 2012 under Dan Bylsma; Career low GAA 2.29 in 15 under Mike Johnston and Mike Suillivan; Career high SV% in 08 and 15 under a combination of Therrien, Johnston, and Sullivan; career high in SOs in 15 with 10 under Mike Johnston. So basically he is all over the map pertaining to his overall performances. He has reached his best numbers under a combination of 4 different coaches. It can be easily argued that as a whole his best 2 seasons were from 2014 to 2016… Therrien was not his… Read more »
Oh and lets add one more comment…. the Short Johnston era was easily the most systemic hockey this team has ever played. They attempted to move in a 5 man unit and continued to do so right up to the point that Johnston was fired. So while you feel MAF thrived under his “system” it nearly killed this team as a playoff threat. When Sullivan took the reigns and freed up the talent to play hockey they became a dominant force that won a stanley cup. Good analysis sammich lol.
Johnston was also canadian. And by far a worse version of Dan Bylsma.
DB is a fraud only reason he survived this long in Pittsburgh it’s because of the media and the love of the bandwagon fans that bozo had no hockey coaching in him h purely relied on talent showing up on nightly basis. JayDogg said DB will have success anywhere he coaches .im sure he is with the sabre
He is coaching in a more hockey knowing city then Pittsburgh and trust me clowns sabre fans are already getting fed up from that clown. Sometimes I wish he coached a Canadian team so people riot his house
End of the day, despite the deficiencies obvious in his coaching style he still coached a championship team. When the players stopped responding to Therrien, and they did (Gonchar hurt but it’s hard to imagine he was the sole reason they plummeted in the standings), Bylsma’s approach for that moment worked. It was unsustainable long-term as we seen but he won, period.
Fleury got injured to that year also no guerin, or kunitz.
Right so it was a 39 year old Guerin and Chris Kunitz absence that was the cause of the plummet in the standings. Kunitz>>>Toews?
Both guys played a big role but if you think adding them simply turned this team around you are a total moron.
$8.5 Million – get it done, JR!
Oh and MAF played 62 games that year… if he was hurt it wasnt extended
I like how sam starts watching hockey in 2005 and thinks he’s an expert now. I’ll say this sam – since you’re uniformly regarded as the biggest idiot on this board, I do appreciate the compliment of you telling me I know nothing about the game – really means a lot coming from the board retard. Thanks buddy!
Way to make the case dipshit. You should have just let everyone else rip on him for slowly trying to come out but in the biggest dick was possible… self hating closet case.
And ace saves him in 3… 2… 1…
bull$hit, he has a bouqet of roses painted on the back of his mask. that isn’t on a french flag.
Maybe you gave him said roses before he showed you his pee pee.
Flowers in 2013 – http://ingoalmag.com/masks/fleurys-new-ccm-mask/
Now I am having trouble finding the back of the current mask but traditionally its a frog, a fleur-di-lis and a Maple Leaf… So if this is what you are interpreting as a “bouquet of roses” I have to say it’s not a shock you’d make such a big deal out of something you misunderstood. In fairness I would like to see the back before fully trashing you but history says you probably fucked it up.
You kinda are the authority on pussies. Especially since you admitted to seeing so many pee pees. #Fraud
hamhuis can go fcuk himself, his best days are long behind him
He was never good as he was paid for
I mean, he was never the ripoff that Jonathan Toews is….
Fuckk you and your toews the guy has 3 Stanley Cup and a few gold medals with Canada. what does your beloved American fraud Parise has
Why is he my fraud? I don’t care nor own Parise – apparently he’s “my toews” too.
Let’s see Sam – Chris Kunitz has 3 Stanley Cups. and a gold medal. Puts up roughly the same amount of points as Toews – what are you thinking – 1 year, $8.5 million after this year? I mean – pay the man what he’s worth.
U do know clown that only reason kunitz career has extended because he played with sid. If he would’ve been in another team he would’ve retired long time ago. Kunitz ideal throughout his career is a good 3rd liner and 2nd at its best but because of sid he got 1st line taste longer then expected. Same goes for dupuis 4thliner 3rd liner at its best
Can’t believe buckeye donuts gives you so many breaks
you should stick to not trying to be witty – you’re terrible at it. And you know it.
On the other hand, Ovy has no cups or gold medals, so he should be easily attainable and paid league minimum. #samelogic
Does he have 3 cups? Does he have a gold medal? Those were your arguments. He also played quite well with Malkin. So – what are you thinking? $8.5M? he’s not QUITE Toews – but almost.
well I don’t care nor own toews as well
But you never know with JM. In charge of the Defense he can make mediocre defense look like a star just look how he made gayjoy look or Schultz. Last Saturday on interview Schultz said because of JM my game been better and in playoffs sully also praised JM by saying I depend heavily on JM decision I wonder how pens D and sully would do if JM left pens.
Despite hamhuis showing extreme resistance to join the pens on 3 different occasions and the potential of the stars having 3 goalies make over a combined 16 million this year and next. This trade seems like just a great fit for everyone. can’t think for the life of me why its not done yet
I pretty much agree with all of this. He’s a dick – and he’s not good enough to be that big of a dick.
Maybe the deal is going to be Murry and Fleury for Jamie Benn. 4 goalies has never been tried before – maybe 2017 is the first?
according to those in the know